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Title: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 01, 2013, 04:20:24 AM
Hi folks,

I figured I should stop ogling the Industria Mechanika kits and actually build some of them :) I've been cleaning up the Fichtenfish but I wanted to have a go at the sniper when it appeared since it's big and cool and an antidote to this fiddly 1/144 scale hovercraft I've been building.

I'm a total resin novice, I've used a couple of resin aftermarket parts but that's it, so please point and laugh or suggest things to save me from my own stupidity according to taste :)

I started by soaking the bits in warm soapy water, scrubbed them with an old toothbrush and rinsed them off. They smelled a bit like lacquer thinner in the box, now they don't, so hopefully I got the mould release off?

First impressions are pretty good - with the pour plugs removed you can dry fit the legs, lower and upper body and he'll stand up on his own two feet without the base. Which means the pose really is as natural as it looks - nice :)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8536/8697659611_d1b8b5945e_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8697659611/)

I did some more clean up and put the major bits together with 5 minute epoxy, using the base as a work stand. He's pretty big - would make a good Eva :)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8274/8697660025_fdc4fa69f8_c.jpg)

There was one difficult mould line on the back of the left calf - the right one is fine, the left one had a step which goes right through the socket. I've made some progress on cleaning it but there's still more material to remove/fill. Those hamstrings are cool though.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8140/8697660713_c049beddb6_c.jpg)

I also put the two main gun components together - had to adjust the slides on the sprung part of the stock, and I also broke the lower spring guard which is very delicate, but it was easy to repair. I'll leave the spring out for now since it can just pop in the guard later. The gun is a little bit soft in detail, so I scribed some of the concave angles to sharpen them up a bit, and I've tried to do all the clean-up with a file to get lots of hard edges. There's a mould line running through the ridges on the top of the body which will be a bugger to clean up properly, I suspect it's better to ignore that one, or remove them completely?

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8559/8697660927_333f4e6807_c.jpg)

I really like the sight, I haven't messed with that at all apart from paring down the hood over the optics to get a thinner edge.

Oh - there's a long barrel and one of those boxy muzzle brakes, but there's no point fitting that now since I'd only break it :) I suspect I'll replace the resin barrel with metal tube anyway.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8259/8698782898_60af1f8f49_c.jpg)

As you can see the gun comes to hand nicely - no issues with fit, both hands grip where/what they should. I think the clip is really a bit close to the torso and hips though, it's not a big issue but since I'm wondering about making the gun a little bit more sci-fi (different muzzle + barrel - maybe suggesting it's somehow a coil gun?) I could remove the clip, or most of it, and have an energy hose from one of the sockets on the drone's back?


So primer and more cleanup next. I also have some big unanswered questions, like how to paint it, and can I light it? For the light, the head is really small so the only options I can think of would be:

a) Drill out the eyes and run optical fibre through to the channel on the back of the head, and have an SMD LED there, or curve the fibre around into the body or a backpack somehow? Like predator dreads :) I really don't want to be hollowing out the body though - too much chance to stuff it up and the surface is too smooth to spoil. I also can't see how to run the wires to the base without drilling out everything which would imply some kind of button cell in a backpack?

b) Have an opaque visor over the eyes, with an LED glow behind it? Same issues with the wires, but it could work.

On the paint front, I'm not sure whether to go metallic (like the Geth) or something more like District 9/Chris Cunningham/Cerberus armour from Mass Effect - lots of hard white plates with orange or red contrast and black/metallic detail underneath. I really like the idea of hard white, but looking at the figure in close-up there's a lot of what looks like moving "musculature" and maybe less plating than I thought.

I'm also not sure how either of these would gel with weathering - I quite like the idea of a clean and shiny robo-soldier in a dusty derelict environment, but that would need a soft touch on the weathering and not give me anywhere to hide with the paint job...

I suspect there's a lot of masking in my future :) Apologies for rambling, hope I can keep some momentum going on this one since it feels like I've been doing military stuff for ages now.

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: ghostintheshell on May 01, 2013, 05:51:24 AM
Im going to subscribe to this early in the piece, wicked kit, been admiring your work thru out the forum. Cant wait for the next update!   

Drew.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 01, 2013, 05:58:15 AM
I love this figure design, would definitely build this myself.
And your painting ideas makes it even more interesting to me.
BTW. I wish someone would release a Geth figure :D

Will watch this thread with interest.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: fulcy on May 01, 2013, 06:35:15 AM
Your idea of modding the gun clip to hook up to a socket on the back of the figure is an interesting idea - I say go for it!

As far as lighting of the eyes, I think the fiber optic idea is the way to go - sending all the optics and battery to a back pack is interesting - maybe instead of hooking the gun clip to a socket on the back of the figure, it hooks up to the back pack (a reason to have the back pack), and the back pack houses the battery and LED for the eyes?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 01, 2013, 10:23:01 AM
Will be following with interest Will, this is my favourite of the imech models.

I also think the cable and socket in the back idea is a great one! As for paint this screams out for sleek metallic finish but i would be very tempted to do a gritty battlefield paint job

Looking forward to more!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on May 01, 2013, 06:46:18 PM
Looking good so far. I cleaned up the upper body of mine, but didn't have time to start the legs yet. Sucks about that seam, I'll have to check and see if all kits are like that or if it's a fluke. If it's run-wide, then I'll be complaining to the caster on everyone's behalf.

Yeah, that spring box is super-delicate. Surprised they were able to cast it.

I'm told that Freaky Gothic is coming out great so look forward to getting that soon and seeing how it compares to this.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 03, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
Thanks for the interest folks, I primed things to see how I was going, then cleaned up some more seams (smaller ones) that I hadn't spotted, and did a little filling around joints. I'd not been too careful cleaning up the ends of the pins I think, and when primed it looked like a little CA to close the gaps would be a good thing. Then more primer:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8556/8705716219_02cc9b8564_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8705716219/)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8269/8706838808_61aa319bb6_c.jpg)

I think the surface texture might preclude my gloss white plans - I think what I'll do is use liquid surface primer on the chestplate and head and get those really smooth, and have everything else non-gloss. Still not sure about this - I found one of the original renders and it does look cool a bit battered :) I've also been going through the D9 art book looking for ideas.

I'm told that Freaky Gothic is coming out great so look forward to getting that soon and seeing how it compares to this.
The seam isn't a big worry, I've mostly dealt with it now but I think I need to do a bit more carving with a new blade inside the "socket" to be really sure.

Freaky Gothic is an interesting one - I'd kind of passed him by because the Chrononaut is so enticing (BIG DINO HEAD!) but I've really enjoyed seeing the previews and such. I think what appeals is the way he almost looks like a normal Napoleonic figure, but not quite :)

[edit: Surface texture issue might be from primer rather than the resin? The Tamiya rattle-can primer is usually pretty idiot-proof, but it might well spread/stick less well on resin than plastic...]

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 04, 2013, 02:08:00 AM
The D9 artbook is really cool, and very inspiring, it would be amazing to see this in the orange white and black pattern of the original walking mech designs from the film!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 04, 2013, 03:51:32 AM
Yes it would :evil: I also went back and watched Tetra Vaal, and I'm now watching D9 :)

I notice that the white in D9 is at most an eggshell, and often closer to matt white. Which might make my life much easier. Same in Tetra Vaal, although I assume that was because it's easy to get good image-based lighting results with diffuse surfaces since you don't need to capture such complex light probes? Certainly back when it was made it'd have helped.

In the meantime I've been doing some work on the gun. I've filled the slide thing (the bit where the bolt is) partly because it was very slightly wonky and I didn't manage to straighten it, but mostly because an energy gun shouldn't have a slide :) It also gives a nice flat surface for some decals or other paintwork. I've nearly got it smooth/flat although it's messed up the plate which wraps around the back of the main body, I might need to build that up again.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8706199907_b6c92cf907_c.jpg)
(click for bigger) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8706199907/)

I've also removed the clip (no bullets now) and replaced it with a ball joint from Bandai's builder's parts, on which I can clip the little D9-style cylindrical energy cell/thingy, also made from Bandai bits. It fouls the pelvis, or it would if the ball joint didn't let me move it out of the way :)

I was considering shortening the barrel or maybe even leaving it off, but popping the kit barrel in place the whole figure does look a lot more balanced. I need to find some 2.5mm tube, I only have sizes up to 2mm, or some 1/8" brass tube which is a bit too big.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8409/8707323580_f99cecacfe_c.jpg)

I'm enjoying this, it's much less fussy (in terms of "accuracy") than the military stuff. It's been ages since I was able to dig out a load of bits and see which ones I liked the look of.

W


Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 04, 2013, 12:31:45 PM
The cylindrical energy cell on the gun looks killer! Its nice when you get to do builds where you can have a bit of free reign with what you do.

Can't wait to see some paint! :-)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on May 04, 2013, 01:27:33 PM
Looks like you're well on your way. I definitely like the new 'clip' on the gun :)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 05, 2013, 03:32:17 AM
I found where I'd put my brass tube (it was in the Yamato box) so I was able to make a barrel today from some K&S tube which is just shy of 2.5mm OD. I opted to add a bit of interest with a sort of barrel support/rail thing after looking at some pictures of the AS-50 rifle. The white plastic which mounts the rail is actually a kit part - one of the more fragile resin bits was taped to a big square of styrene :)

I also managed to break the kit bipod, and since I was interested in having an open one (nice angles) I built new legs with brass wire, steel tube and some universal joints from a LAV for the feet. I used the kit elbows and pinned everything together to get it solid.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8553/8710288798_fdc8047a96_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8710288798/)

Instead of a muzzle brake I've added a silencer made from a bit of random Tamiya acrylic tube. It was too big so I wrapped the end of the barrel in Tamiya tape - truly the VAZ of the modelling world - and filled the gap with thick CA. I was thinking about a more futuristic "end effector" but ultimately decided against it - small changes are probably better than big ones.

Once I'd got this far I went and looked at some more reference and the bipod had to go - the junction was a bit clunky (I didn't choose a good spare part for the middle between the elbows) and the legs are too long. I made a new one using bent steel tube slipped into a sleeve at the top, and found a great little pivot clip part to make the middle. Some cable insulation helps to disguise the fact that the elbows can't be folded. Plus I found some spikes for the feet:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8403/8709166035_d200ec4f29_c.jpg)

Lastly I had to make a new trigger guard since I broke the nice resin one - sorry Michael, I don't think clumsy people like me should be allowed to play with your nice things :( At least it'll protect the resin trigger!

The replacement is filed down from brass wire to get a square (ish) section. One of these days I'm doing to have to get a vice for this sort of thing...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8399/8710328348_9bab942e84_c.jpg)

I wiped down the metal bits with lacquer thinner and then primed everything. It's not immaculate (escaped glue) but you get the idea:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8121/8710290242_c2a69375b0_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8709167349_fe4f5ab2c1_c.jpg)

I think I'm going to give up on the lighting, I can't see a way to do it well without covering up robot details which I really like. So it's painting next if I can figure out how to approach it. Not sure whether to brush paint or airbrush, or a combination of the two.

Will

Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 05, 2013, 05:01:24 AM
Nice mods and scratch.

Everyone sometimes breaks something in model. But it's good when you know how to fix or replace it.

However me preferred this longer barel with flat thing at the end of a barrel. I think of bigger caliber weapons when I them .Sorry I'm not good at military stuff and terminology. It's just reminds me of a Trig, a Spaceship Trooper Invasion female sniper character.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 05, 2013, 06:21:08 PM
Fair comment about the end-of-muzzle thing. I'm pretty sure it's a "muzzle brake" - it deflects gases in particular directions to try and reduce the kick of the barrel on firing if I got it right? I looked up Trig and that's basically the same - it reminded me of the Halo sniper rifle as well.

I went with the silencer because I think they're menacing and it maybe suits the slightly less butch and bulky build of the drone figure, but it may well be totally wrong on this gun, which I'm pretty sure is based off the big "anti materiel" rifles in the real world which are designed to f*ck up vehicles etc. rather than people.

Caveat: I know next to nothing about real guns apart from that they're scary. I like sci-fi guns though :)

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: ghostintheshell on May 05, 2013, 09:11:24 PM
Love the work so far  8)

Maybe you could take a small sized drill bit and add some holes to the silencer to give it the impression of a muzzle suppressor/silencer?

Just a suggestion, based on the fact that silencers are only practical at short range.

When sniping long distances the bullet will break the sound barrier which will make the silencer redundant anyway, whereas the suppressor will make for better accuracy, displacing the gases that leave the end of the barrel and limit muzzle flash masking the snipers location.

Hope this helps in some way lol
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 05, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
Thanks for the explaining the thing about muzzles and silencers guys. It's always good to learn something new :D

Anyway – can't wait to see some paint on this!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Dave Diaz on May 06, 2013, 07:30:13 AM
Will,

Excellent work! I really liked the bipod, very well done.

dave
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 06, 2013, 07:42:40 PM
*Apparently* (Wikipedia) a flash suppressor is more about avoiding disrupting the sniper's night vision. I'll think about drilling the cylinder though - I've seen some with sort of pepperbox vents around the muzzle which look cool/odd. I'd wondered about sticking something onto it as well, but so far haven't found a candidate.

I was talking to a modeller on another site who was full of enthusiasm for fibres and LEDs, so I had another think about it and I reckon I can get a suitable LED and fibre in the head itself. Then I can run a wire inside the neck and out of the shoulder into an over-shoulder bag with a cells in it.

I drilled out the head in preparation - not too tricky, but time consuming, It was absolutely necessary to start at 0.3mm and go up 0.1mm at a time when drilling the eyeballs, then I ran two bores up from the pin socket towards where the eyes are and hit all the holes pretty much first time. Result!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7413/8716659262_69161c630c_c.jpg)
(click for bigger, still need to sand the primer more...) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8716659262/)

While I had the pin vice out I drilled out the dimples on the chin (5 o'clock shadow?) and the vents in the brain case.

The countersinking is a bit big so I think I'll need to sleeve/mushroom/epoxy-blob the fibres. It looks like I can get all the bits in the head which is awesome, only wires to worry about elsewhere. I have some 1mm fibre coming with some SMD LEDs which I think will be quite good - the 0.5mm is a bit small maybe? We'll see.

I also had a bit of a modelling epiphany and discovered the joys of decanting Tamiya primer and TS paint straight into the airbrush cup. So awesome! So quick + tidy! So much money saved :)

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 06, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Man, You are insane. In the positive way ;)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 06, 2013, 11:18:51 PM
I was encouraged :pirate:

I put a bit of gloss paint on to get a better look at the surface this afternoon, and rubbed it all back with 1000 grit until I couldn't see the gloss. Then re-primed, so ready to try the gloss white again next.

I also drilled out all the holes on the body because it looked cool on the head - only half a mil or so but it adds some nice shadow and makes everything look crisp and big. I suspect a dot of wash would've had a similar effect, but this was is quite fun to do:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7415/8715802647_77a6438a57_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8715802647/)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 06, 2013, 11:25:28 PM
That is amazing! Man I now feel like a mega wuss for not lighting my jet racer after this fiddly piece of work!

Great job Will, and that gun is looking really great  :-)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on May 07, 2013, 12:40:19 AM
The lights in the head really add a lot. Lookin' good, Will!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hemish on May 07, 2013, 02:29:40 AM
Man that looks amazing.
The lit up eyes take it to another level
Bravo sir, Bravo
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 08, 2013, 02:22:05 AM
Thanks all, wait for the lights to actually be installed + working before getting exciting though! All I have at the moment are a nice collection of holes :)

In the meantime I've been polishing, masking and painting. I picked some panels to be "hard" armour and sprayed them with another couple of coats of gloss white, then polished it out. Still not a proper shiny surface, but it'll do once it's been weathered a bit. You can't see much shine in the pics, I'm afraid:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/8719123475_b9459f71c0_c.jpg)
(click for bigger) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8719123475/)

Then lots of masking, using Tamiya tape applied and trimmed in-place. It was a nightmare! The cost of all that rich panelling detail is that all the mask edges are curved, change direction all over, vary in depth etc. etc. Three scalpel blades and plenty of patience, and I got it done. I touched up a couple of spots with liquid mask.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/8720246056_0a2d7813b6_c.jpg)

Then the main body colour for the flexible plastic "musculature" - I used USAF light grey for this because I wasn't confident enough in my masking to go for high-contrast edges :) Then more masking, semi-gloss black and a bit of Alclad for the hard metal bones where they stick out. I just realised I missed the ones at the elbow though, oops. He looks a bit disco in full masking fig:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7299/8720246356_1fd0a48dfe_c.jpg)

Then the big reveal. And I hated the black midsection, thankfully I realised before unmasking the hips so all I had to do was re-mask the upper torso and fill in the black with the USAF grey.

I had to to a fair bit of overspray clean-up, and there's more to do yet. Particuarly where I got lazy and did some boundaries with liquid mask instead of tape:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7309/8720246692_3ab1bf70a5_c.jpg)

I like the back view quite a bit, but the front makes me think he's wearing his wife's knickers (and bra). I think I may need to paint the three blocks in the centre of the chest in white as well, and hopefully the cotton undies will start to fade as the details get filled in. It's funny, one of the things that appeals is that the figure is slightly androgynous, but maybe it's gone too far towards female.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/8720247048_e3a44cbc96_c.jpg)

I still love the way the Sting-as-Feyd-Rautha V-codpiece stands out :)

My plan for the paint is a bit vague, but I have some reasonable base colours on now, assigned by my read of the functionality of the different bits of the drone. I still need to add the rubbery under-muscles (e.g. on the neck, behind the joints) and a ton of metallic details. After that, some more design-ey colour - red or orange stripes, or maybe UN blue?

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hemish on May 08, 2013, 02:29:56 AM
Looking good, the colour separation is really nice
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on May 08, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about it seeming like it's wearing underwear. I think as soon as you start doing washes and such that idea'll be gone.
I'd probably go with either the orange or the blue. You could also be daring and try purple!

Really like the different colours already. The spine in the back also pops quite well. How'd you polish the white before you got started on the rest?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 08, 2013, 09:22:32 PM
The spine is a really cool bit of detail design and moulding, I'm glad it came out well.

I polished the white with 1000 and 2000 grit paper followed Tamiya compounds (coarse and fine). It's still not a great surface - I should've spent more time sanding the primer, but I didn't want to round things off either. That said, the breastplate and head came out really well and they're the only ones that matter. I'm only going to keep a bit of sheen by the time it all gets weathered.

Trying to figure out how to apply the colour - not sure if it should be just on the white, or going across the white onto the tan plastic? I suspect the former.

Also musing about highlighting the tan with a dusting of metallic paint - it might be a bit weird, and certainly wouldn't look like plastic anymore...

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on May 09, 2013, 01:03:08 AM
I think the colour should tie it all together, so it'd be fine to have that go over both the white and the tan parts. A dash of metallic stuff could be sweet, considering its mechanical nature :)

I'll have to keep an eye out for some Tamiya compounds, I've got a model that'll definitely need kind of a shiny candy coating.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 09, 2013, 01:33:42 AM
Great work Will, looks good with some colour on it! The metallic spine is nice. Looking forward to the next update  :-)

Oh and forgot to mention earlier thanks for mentioning Tetra Vaal, Im a massive D9 fan but hadn't heard of that before, was a cool short.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 09, 2013, 01:43:15 AM
Insane masking skills :D
I have one resin kit in my stash waiting, but the thing that worries me most is masking.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 13, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
Masking skills not that great I'm afraid - check out the 1:1 versions of the pictures on Flickr and cringe at the edges :(

To which end, I've been touching things up with a paintbrush and slightly-lightened Humbrol acrylic ghost grey, which is a close-but-not-perfect match for the TS paint I used. The hue is great but it's a touch darker, I've been adding white but you can still see where the touch-ups are I think.

More interestingly, I've also brush-painted some spots where the undersuit shows beneath the musculature - these have a stippled finish to the resin. I was going to use a dark blue-grey but ended up trying a warm grey and liking it quite a bit so that's what's on there at the moment. If I keep all the grey tones warm, I can make the metallics and the eyes cool and get better contrast, I hope.

Even more interestingly, I've airbrushed some shading and such on the grey plastic areas. I went for a broad highlight of GW's bleached bone lightened slightly, and then a fine lowlight of Tamiya buff, and a final highlight of lightened Tamiya sky grey.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8737356960_968a554654_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8737356960/)

They aren't really highlights and lowlights in shading terms (well, a little) but more changing the hue across the pieces which I think adds interest. I'm wary of painting lighting onto something this big, although a little shading is probably OK. I also built the buff up quite a bit around holes and sockets:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7285/8737356610_fb74319228_c.jpg)

When seen against the white and the dark areas the contrast fades quite a bit, but it definitely adds something:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7286/8737374688_ec0ee08d60_c.jpg)

I think some washes will really help now, maybe another round of airbrushing first. I don't know if anyone is familiar with Robin Laws' Shadowfist and Feng Shui background, but there's a great bit of description in there of magically-infused plastic called Arcanowave Resonating Biopolymer (ARB). It's sort of chalky and slightly alive, I think the plastic areas of the sniper are definitely starting to reflect this via some strange subconscious memory trick :)

http://hastur.net/abbe/t3/arcanowave/rules.html (http://hastur.net/abbe/t3/arcanowave/rules.html)

I also found out I'd had my airbrush set up wrong - I had the trigger spring tension so loose that the end stop (for painting lines) didn't really have any effect and I could only really do broad strokes. I thought it seemed a bit all-or-nothing given than the nozzle is 0.2mm :) Now I've twiddled it a bit I had a lot more luck with applying the buff to panel lines etc.

Note to self: Stop trying to spray the GW paints, the colours may look tempting but it'd be better to mix Tamiya and avoid the 10 minute clean-up sessions. :evil:

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 13, 2013, 11:21:02 PM
Man masking is a bitch isn't it??

Love the colours Will, the subtle shading looks very nice, and I really like the white stock in contrast to the black on the gun, looks cool  8)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 14, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
Man, it's not that bad. I'm sure you'll figure it out with ease with washes ;)

I like gentle shading it brings it to life.

Airbrushing GW? That's brave. I have a problem with Vallejo in AB but it's not an easy paint. I defenitely lack of experience in airbrushing, so I preffer Tamiya, Gaia & Gunze stuff.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 14, 2013, 09:14:45 PM
Masking is definitely hard work, I don't envy you the Iron Man suit since there's nowhere to hide at all on that one :(

I did a load more work on the shading, adding some blotching (sponge) and mottling (airbrush) as well as deepening the warm tome around various details. All of which my phone camera totally fails to capture. (Battery flat on the proper camera).

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7287/8740685692_9688d7b25f_c.jpg)
(Flickr link) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8740685692/)

What you can see in the above is that I've brush-painted the hands and feet, the white on the knuckles might need another coat but otherwise I think the colours work OK. The soles of the shoes are a dark grey, and the uppers in the same brown as the membranes. I think the shoes are a little bit over-designed but they were fun to paint and I think they'll tone down OK since they're close to the ground and will pick up more dust and grot from the environment.

I opted to bring the metal bones out at the wrists and in the instep to try and make things a little less human.

Just about ready to varnish now, then I can pin wash the panels and think about decals plus a spot of colour.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 16, 2013, 07:54:34 PM
Been busy with work lately but I got a coat of Klear onto the non-shiny bits yesterday so I could do some washing today. I've used MIG neutral wash on all the plastic areas, and dark wash in a couple of deeper spots like the seams on the back. Once I'd got it all done I wiped any wash off the white panels, they need colour and decals and sealing before they get their turn. I forgot to clean up the area around the spine before taking the pictures. Which are a bit rubbish because I still haven't charged the good camera battery, but better than the phone

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8116/8745794465_7f97a984d5_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7322/8746917340_4c161eb52e_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8746917340/)

Those shoes are a bit Great Gatsby, no? Too clean :)

Quite tricky to get nice panel lines - they're not super sharp - maybe down to my priming and sanding, or just softened by the polishing or whatever other cleanup gets done to the rapid-prototyped master? If I run a damp brush along the edge of the line I can get a beautiful sharp edge, but then it tends to be wiggly because my hand isn't perfectly steady. So it's perfectly possible to get a good finish but it is quite hard work. I need to do another pass or two when the light is better.

I think some kind of sponge chipping will really help, but I'm not sure what colour. I don't want the muscles to chip to metal, maybe something really light would work?

Still, I think it's getting somewhere. I've got some good ideas about spot colour now as well, that might be next.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 16, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Thats looking really nice Will, the washes set it off perfectly. Seems to look more "real" if that makes sense.

For the chipping, I think going lighter is a good idea, I like to go darker with chipping but I think it will give a nice organic look to the drone, as if its skin wear rather than chipping on a machine
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 18, 2013, 08:52:34 PM
Thanks, I did go for the light chips and I'm pretty happy. I think a few streaks here and there and the muscles will be done.

Got the camera battery charged up and I can finally post some decent pictures. I've chipped/drybrushed all the musculature and added some black acrylic washes to try and define some shadow areas a bit better. It's starting to get messy, which is sort of good, sort of bad. I've still got this idea in the back of my head that robots should be clean, once I can defeat that it'll be cool.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/8751647355_88482254d3_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7438/8752769740_b6863a73c7_c.jpg)

You can see in close-up (click here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8752770178/), go to "all sizes") that the surface is a little chalky.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7337/8752770178_5092b8045a_c.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3801/8751648515_6c168aa57a_c.jpg)

The highlights are a mixture of sponging and dry-brushing, smudged out with my finger, in excitingly-named Games Workshop colours like "Pallid Wych Flesh" - a very pale grey-pink, plus a blue grey and another one I forgot. And white for crispness here and there.

Time to stop messing around now and get some colour on the white armour. And sort the lights.

Will

[edit: Fixed images]
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 20, 2013, 01:48:50 AM
[edit: that didn't work so well, let's' see if I can fix the images...]

I finally added some colour and some other detail with decals. I couldn't decide between orange and blue so opted for both... The name-tag background and the circular gadget are masked and sprayed, the rest is from various decals - either Bandai sci-fi ones or leftovers.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/8757481222_e67fa94b16_c.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5451/8757481740_1e5b6588af_c.jpg)
(click for bigger) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8757481222/)

Sgt. Gerald Bies is an F-117A plane captain I think, he was leftover from this kit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/sets/72157632805902423/). Also I demoted him from Staff Sgt. since I wanted a police rather than military rank.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/8756354525_c75cdee288_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7453/8757482186_bf3ee255aa_c.jpg)

The red circles round the tiny holes are supposedly guides for unscrewing the panels (torque here first, or similar) and the bigger ones are some kind of generic warning. The small dark grey numbers on the musculature are serial numbers - like casting numbers on tanks.

I was hoping the decals would help to sharpen things up - and they do, but they also draw attention to the general scruffiness of the shading job. I can either go with that and weather more, or try and tidy up various edges with a brush, not sure which yet.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 20, 2013, 06:43:08 AM
Nice!

The decals really add a lot Will, did a good job with them. I dont think its as scruffy looking as you think, to me it gives it a nice seasoned soldier look, maybe do what you said and go over and neaten with a brush the areas your least happy with.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: The Inner Geek on May 20, 2013, 11:02:46 AM
Looks fantastic! The color really did a lot to add some "realism". Are you going add more little warning symbols, part numbers, and such? Also, I like the way the muscle looks behind the knees and under the arm, but I'm not sure about the neck? Seems like a large dark patch if that makes sense?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 20, 2013, 12:04:59 PM
Very good use of decals.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 20, 2013, 02:45:44 PM
Thanks guys, this was a fun step to do. I normally find decals stressful, but when you aren't following a particular real machine (with exactly the right number of decals on the sheet) it's a lot more relaxed.

Are you going add more little warning symbols, part numbers, and such?
I'm not sure, I stopped because I thought I should step back and have a look before going full Ver.Ka... I don't have any more of the small part numbers, and I did get one on pretty much every major piece. But perhaps some more dark grey markings like the triangles on the backs of the legs or the vent marks on the sides of the calves wouldn't hurt. They don't stand out in the same way the red-on-white ones do. There are a few things I haven't called out yet, like the back vents, shoulder pad vents, etc. I suspect the four sockets on the chest should be left along since it's pretty busy already, but the circular outlines I used on the waist are available, so....

Quote
Also, I like the way the muscle looks behind the knees and under the arm, but I'm not sure about the neck? Seems like a large dark patch if that makes sense?
Yeah totally, the dark brown "membrane" stuff hasn't really been painted yet - I gave it a base colour and a wash but haven't really figured out what do do with it. I think I'll drybrush it to bring out the subtle texture and maybe add some traditional brush highlights?

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 22, 2013, 12:03:16 AM
I've done a bit more tidying up and added a handful of extra decals, then I thought I'd better get some varnish on. I started by airbrushing Tamiya Clear Flat (XF-86) which isn't bad, but isn't properly flat so I opted to cover everything in Dullcote - my favourite step :) I lined the armour panels with MIG cold grey wash, which was tricky because some of them are quite shallow, but perseverance has mostly paid off. Then added some chips!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/8775317257_36b96f2ef4_c.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/8775319227_fbea4c7dd9_c.jpg)
([Flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8775319227/))

I also repainted the gun - the white was just too bright, and the cool grey is a nice counterpoint to the warm grey of the musculature;

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/8775321495_6ba4631ac8_c.jpg)

A few streaks and scratches, and some metallic details, and that's where we are now. I need to sort the head (lights!) out next, decal and weather the gun, and wash around various details. But I like how the weathering has come out - a bit of dust or mud to tone it down in parts and that should be that:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5462/8775449801_4a464070a4_b.jpg)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/8775451153_fa53e5c171_b.jpg)

Plus think of a base - I was going to go for urban concrete, but I wonder if grass and mud would be more fun? Depends where the future police might be, I suppose.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on May 22, 2013, 01:48:37 AM
Nice weathering! All painted?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 22, 2013, 01:53:20 AM
Pretty much just acrylic paint, apart from the streaks which are an enamel wash dragged down with a brush, and the damage to the decals/painted markings which I did with a scalpel.

I made the chips with dark grey on a sponge, then filled in some areas with a fine brush. I added a highlight and a metallic interior to the larger ones. Don't think the metal really shows in the pictures but it looks nice in the flesh.

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hemish on May 22, 2013, 03:45:49 AM
Man your work and another guy I have seen doing this have convinced me to buy one.
That looks stunning, I hope mine comes out half as good and I'll be happy
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 22, 2013, 03:47:55 AM
Cool, I've certainly bought some of Michael's kits on the strength of builds I've seen so it's nice to pass on the love  :D

Is the other build on the web? I'd love to see since I couldn't find any when I looked a couple of weeks back.

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 22, 2013, 04:58:13 AM
Those metal chips on the white look great! Nice work Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Beork on May 22, 2013, 10:05:04 AM
Wow, this is a great piece, haven't seen one made yet.
I like the slight wear and tear on the model, and the colours really work well
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Laurent A. T. on May 24, 2013, 05:01:41 PM
Hello,

New here...  :-)

Nice build so far ! Minimalistic and effective weathering.

Ordered mine a couple of days ago. Hope to join very soon !

Cheers Will Vale ;)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hemish on May 25, 2013, 01:52:33 AM
It was on a guys facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/modelscale/photos_stream

He said the whole thing went together in about 20 minutes or so
That and from when I saw it the first time I was pretty much into it.
Just needed to see a couple of builds to see if I really wanted one and you guys convinced me.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 26, 2013, 12:02:04 AM
Thanks Hemish, it looks cool in green doesn't it? A touch Master Chiefy, maybe.

Thanks for the kind words all, I've been messing around with the lighting - I've got a couple of orange "surface mount" (although they're more like 1.6mm with shortened legs) LEDs soldered up with wire and they fit behind the eye sockets nicely. I also dismantled a laser pointer to get a neat cylindrical backpack with batteries, a momentary button and latching circuit for turning the eyes on and off.

The only problem is that when I held it up against the robot's back I didn't like it :( I think it might work, might not - it strikes me that it would be hard to get the weight and pull of the sling straps right and that would be a shame. So I'm exploring other ideas - I carved out a bit more space in the head and I can get two tiny button cells in there now, and then carved out a bigger space in the neck and can get two slightly larger cells in, as well as making it possible to drill the "socket" on the back and take a lead out through there.

I haven't settled on any one thing yet. I think I want to style the base (not a huge one) after Soweto to tie back in to Tetra Vaal/D9, plus get some cool red-brown soil and mud on the lower legs. I'm musing about doing what Hunter's Gundam is doing and having the backpack on the ground, with a cable going to the back socket, but it seems a bit static for a small figure. Could he be charging up?

I dunno really. I'd like to get it all done for Wednesday night (club meeting) too but I'm also working on a sea base for the LCAC so I've slowed down a bit.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 26, 2013, 10:14:41 AM
Maybe this is a crazy idea but how about instead of a back pack have him plugged directly into an emergency charger that are dotted around like old police telephones in case they need a charge out in the field?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 26, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
That occurred to me too, but I wasn't sure if I could pull it off since it's quite different in tone to the background I had in mind. I guess decals and lettering go a long way to explaining that kind of thing. I might come back to it later.

Anyway, I have a plan for the short term: I've made a micro battery pack by epoxying two 1.5V AG3 button cells together edge-to-edge with a plastic spacer. Then a bit of phosphor bronze to join the contacts on one side, and bare wires would into coils for the terminals. All wrapped in heatshrink.

It's rather Scrapheap Challenge, but it works and it fits into the bigger cavity in the neck. I also have a little Hall effect IC (magnetic switch) from one of the Bandai Gundam head kits, which I can install in the head along with the LEDs. I worked out (assuming I found the right datasheet) that it should run for a year or two (with the lights off) before I need to replace the cells.

Soldering next, then final head painting and assembly. W00t!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on May 26, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
Got the lighting rig built up:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8407/8849286207_8f2bcd54e8_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8849286207/)

I think this will let me carry on and finish the thing, and I can always revisit the lighting if I tack the head in place with CA glue. I still like the idea of the charging station, or a power cell on the ground, or something like that. But I don't want to think about those too hard at the moment or I shall lose my resolve :)

It does work, and hopefully (if the datasheet I found is similar to the sensor I have) will be OK for a year or two before the leakage current runs the cells down completely.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/8849907724_6bb884ee17_c.jpg)

[edit] Here's the other thing which is occupying my time at the moment - Trumpeter/Pit Road's 1/144 LCAC. Nearly finished!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7360/8849940946_2bb98428fb_c.jpg)

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on May 27, 2013, 11:08:45 AM
Sounds like a good plan Will, and HOLY CRAP DUDE! That hovercraft is sweet, love the base, great water!  8)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: astromanED on May 31, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
I like how it all came together. FYI I've done a few flights on ol' LC-69
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on June 04, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
So sorry I've missed this build-up! Looks great! Let me know if/when it's done and I'll share the pics on the iMech facebook page.

You may be too far along now, but you can put the ends of the plastic fiber optic near a flame and it will mushroom into a lens shape AND still light up! Would work really well here. I'm doing that for the Waldos I'm working on for the running lights.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 07, 2013, 06:00:13 PM
Thanks for the comments folks, and thanks Michael for the FB post. sorry I haven't been making much progress lately - had a crazy week at work and then I've been off this week but mostly working on tidying the office/workroom.

I did finally get enough done that I can show again: I found a green LED I liked much better than the orange, managed to short my battery pack and decided that it just wasn't a good idea - better to have external power. So I'm back to the power cable out the back plan. I wish I could make my mind up on things like this.

I made a cable by twisting fine brass wire and ultra-thin insulated stranded wire in a drill chuck to get a tight coil, then covered it in heatshrink. It's sort of visible in one of the pictures, I think it looks pretty good and the brass wire gives me some limited but useful ability to post it. This threads into the drilled-out centre of the back connector, and up through the ex-battery-compartment to the head. I polished the ends of some 1mm fibre and epoxied these into place, applying the glue from the inside. Fiddly to align things but it ended up really solid. I left the fibres over-long instead of masking them.

You may be too far along now, but you can put the ends of the plastic fiber optic near a flame and it will mushroom into a lens shape AND still light up!
Thanks for the tip, I did think about it (I did some tests a while back and it definitely works) but I wasn't sure I could get the fibres lined up properly - they all had to terminate in just the right place inside the head to pick up an even-ish light, so I opted to trim them after they were set.

Once the fibres were solid I sprayed the area around the eyes with a light coat of random Alclad metallic as a light blocker, then re-applied the white - it'd got quite dirty anyway because I've been handling the head a lot while carving and drilling it. Then lightly re-polished, masked and sprayed Alclad polished aluminium, and brush-painted the "jaw" with a couple of coats of Boltgun metal.

After that I was able to clip the fibres off at about 1mm, and I've been gently sanding them back to 0.5mm and polishing the ends a bit. They aren't perfectly uniform, but they look pretty cool. If you stayed with the wall-o-text this long then here's the payoff :)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/8981878735_13fb8aeeaa_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/8981878735/)

I need to do a bit more to try and make the fibre ends more uniform (or see if I can find some tiny metal or rubber rings to fit around them?) but I quite like the stubby cylinders they've become, even if it would be optically more sensible to have domed ends. I also need to weather the head and get the LED lined up perfectly - soon!

The other thing I've been up to is trying to make some kind of decision about a base. This took aaaages. I spent a lot of time looking at pictures of Soweto, and thinking about making a public utility "electricity point", maybe next to a standpipe. But I couldn't shake the idea that it was weird - a high-tech police robot wouldn't be plugging in to "civvie" power. I think I have a believable plan now, with a little slice of a checkpoint and a portable robot PSU with the robot, behind a barricade, and bits of rubbish and greenery and all the Johannesburg cues on the other side.

My local art shop has been unable to get Styrofoam, which is my favourite thing for making concrete, for a while and I've run out - I just threw an offcut away last week which would've been perfect (damn!) and that was the last bit. So I took the plunge and tried grey (dry) florists' foam. I hadn't realised how nasty this stuff was - not too crumbly, but it has a lot of the same unpleasantness as resin dust, maybe more. Anyway, I cut some slices and shaped them outside, then sealed/stabilised the surface with a couple of coats of dilute PVA and here we are:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/8981880167_4a35d5e9d0_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/8981881355_cf2cc90ec6_c.jpg)

The texture is way too coarse for concrete, so the next step is to fill the surface with some tinted gesso (and if that doesn't work, filler) and then add some grit to the broken areas to show the aggregate under the surface.

I like how it all came together. FYI I've done a few flights on ol' LC-69
Really? That's pretty cool - I hear they are *incredibly* noisy. I picked 69 because I'd found a pic of it carrying an AAV which is one of the few plastic vehicles available in 1/144, and also because "sixty-nine, dude" :) The kit has a couple of assembled numbers but lots of individual decals so you can make any LCAC. I'm not sure how accurate this will be though - I think it represents a pre-upgrade version and most of the pictures on the 'net (and possibly my paint scheme?) are post-upgrade.

Let me know if there's anything I should/shouldn't be doing!

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on June 07, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
Miniature rings (washers) for the win! I love these guys and use their stuff a lot for masters.

http://www.scalehardware.com/washers-c-11

For concrete, I like to mix plaster of paris with railroad grits, talus, etc, then pour into temporary (and reusable) styrene boxes. You can embed steel wire into the plaster before it sets, then take a stuff brush and wear away at the surface to reveal the grit. (see near bottom here: http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/remora/)

You can also prime any smooth block then while wet... like immediately after priming, sift on some baking soda. Let dry, blow away the excess, then reprime. Check the drainage pipe here: http://fichtenfoo.net/blog/tag/bergeluther/ Also used the wire/gritty plaster method in the rubble here as well.

Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 08, 2013, 02:46:06 AM
I like that idea a lot because it captures how concrete really weathers - the matrix wearing away to reveal the aggregate and rebar. I definitely want to try it at some point but for now I'm persevering with the foam and filler because it almost looks good now - I applied some big globs of gesso after painting the whole block, and then used them to float patches of the surfaces with a scrap of shiny cardboard.

If I can fix the remaining voids then I think it'll come out well, otherwise plan B as per your suggestion I think.

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 08, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
The heads looking killer Will, the eyes look great, the green is a nice contrast
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on June 08, 2013, 01:27:16 PM
I love the green lights in the head, they're looking pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 09, 2013, 05:26:14 PM
Thanks folks, v. kind of you.

I've been messing about with the concrete this weekend. Gesso on its own wasn't enough to fill the foam texture, but gesso with sand in it worked really well. Once I had that (basically pinholes) sorted, I made a hideous porridge of coarse grit and more gesso and worked that into the broken areas to represent revealed aggregate. Then I added some plain clean gesso and floated it out (with post-it notes of all things) in patches to try and show where the surface of the mould left a smooth face. It's probably still a bit too rough owing to the sand, but I think now that it's had a coat of paint it's probably good enough and I should move on to colouring?

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2825/9002567404_16fbc45c83_c.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/9002569168_b7f09051e0_c.jpg)
(click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9002567404/))

Be interested to hear what you think!

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on June 09, 2013, 08:03:37 PM
Looks good overall. Seems like a long round-about way to get there, but it worked!I do like the surface texture and for this larger scale it should work nicely. Don't forget some rust streaks of all things from the broken areas to show rusted rebar streaking.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 09, 2013, 08:49:40 PM
Good point about the rust streaks - I was looking at concrete when I went to pick Laura up from school and they can even appear when there isn't anything metal visible. I'm going to add some lifting loops to the top of the blocks so I can start with rusting those and see how things develop.

I totally agree this was a bit of an ass-backwards way to approach it, but sometimes it's more productive to continue with what you've got than go out and get supplies :) I don't have any plaster left in the house since I stopped using it for RR scenery and switched entirely to styrofoam, lightweight filler, and gesso.

I'm doing something in parallel to the sniper which requires some stone tiles so I'm probably going to try casting those from plaster. The scale makes a huge difference - untextured styrene makes perfect concrete in 1/72 and below, but would be hopeless here :D

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 09, 2013, 11:14:01 PM
Nice concrete! Looks good Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on June 10, 2013, 12:37:31 AM
The texture you ended up with on the foam turned out very well I'd say. I don't think you need to spend extra time on it, aside from the painting and the suggest streaking.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 10, 2013, 01:17:56 AM
Texture looks sweet. Get to painting now.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 10, 2013, 02:18:55 AM
Well okay then, I will :)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/9004504923_97fcce0418_c.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5448/9005681328_a450ffd997_c.jpg)
(click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9004504923/))

What I've done is basically:

* Drybrushed the recessed portions with dark grey and brown (Adeptus Battlegrey, Charadon Granite) to get the effect of a darker aggregate visible under the cement.
* Brushed on some watered-down paint in a fairly pale colour around the edges of the recessed areas and blotted it out, to give a sort of false shading.
* Added loads of splotches of brown, khaki, grey, Pallid Wych Flesh, and traditional flesh tones. Mostly with a sponge, and then blotted out or dragged down with my finger.
* Drybrushed the edges (internal and external) with light greys and white.

It's a bit high contrast and blotchy at the moment - the perils of working in only OK light with no reading glasses - but it'll tone down with pigments and vertical streaks which will probably come once the blocks are set into the scene.

Fun stuff, I love concrete!

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 10, 2013, 02:32:23 AM
That was quick! haha, looking good
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on June 10, 2013, 03:35:20 AM
I have a feeling that you started painting before we all gave you the ok...
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 10, 2013, 03:38:10 AM
I have a feeling that you started painting before we all gave you the ok...

Thats sacrilege, get the pitchforks!  ^_^
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Dave Diaz on June 16, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
Will,

Really great work on this. The colors on the figure are spot on! Those were the colors I imagined it on when I first saw this release. I love it.

dave
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 17, 2013, 01:38:47 AM
Cheers all :) I made up for the gun-jumping by flagging a bit at the end of last week and getting very little done. I have been building the groundwork, but that's about all :(

I carved out the foamboard layer a bit more and covered it in lightweight filler. After that was halfway-set I stippled it with a stiff brush to get some more useful texture:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2874/9064350131_1d9f30a8d5_c.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3700/9064351609_24bd7f0fd2_c.jpg)
(click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9064350131/))

I sprayed the edges black (two coats of Chaos black, sanding in between because I didn't seal the MDF) and then taped them up. Then applied a couple of coats of gesso tinted with acrylic paint, in this case burnt umber and burnt siena. One of them had some dried crushed soil in it for body/texture. When the second coat was mostly dry I made clingfilm booties for the robot and stomped him around the flat area to get some very shallow hints of footmarks/

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5534/9064353271_d6e0ed246e_c.jpg)

Once that had dried I mixed up raw siena, burnt siena, and burnt umber on a palette with *lots* of water and blotted various elements of this mix all over, blending and sopping up the excess with a wet brush and a paper towel. The idea was just to get some variety and lay out a little bit where the final colours are going. The packed ground behind the barricade will be lighter and browner, the piled up earth reddish, and the wet area on the front edge darker.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7379/9064355361_50d8e89711_c.jpg)

Last step (so far) was to airbrush less-saturated thinned blended colours (Tamiya flat earth, red brown, and deck tan in various quantities) over to flat things a bit and bring them together. There's also some olive drab on the wet bit:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/9066582726_8f39115092_c.jpg)

While the paint was in the airbrush I misted a few passes over the feet and lower legs to provide some connection between the ground and the robot. I've since attached the concrete blocks and am waiting for them to dry - not sure how strong the glue bond will be, so I've drilled up into them from below and inserted PVA-dipped skewers to provide a mechanical bond as well.

I need to figure out a soil mix for the top layer of ground, and make/paint a load of small bits of rubbish to drift against the concrete blocks on the bumpy side. Having trouble getting into this at the moment, maybe too much work going on?

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 17, 2013, 08:27:23 PM
Made some experimental cat food tins. These are D9-inspired rather than a prop replica, I think the D9 brands are "Puddi" and "Prr".

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2883/9071656603_b41d991c55_c.jpg)
Bigger version (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9071656603/)

I guess I might want to print in pure CMYK for the spot colours, although it will be a bit garish... An alternative would be to make a decal for the cat + text, and apply over a painted background. For now they're good enough and it may be that when beaten up and weathered they'll look fine...

[edit:] Here's the source "art" :)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5541/9071880373_272a39a894_c.jpg)

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 17, 2013, 10:36:57 PM
Admire the idea :)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 17, 2013, 11:04:51 PM
Cool for cats! Liking the base Will, and the cat food tins are a nice touch
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on June 18, 2013, 01:19:50 AM
I don't know why, but half that can is in Dutch!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 18, 2013, 02:30:38 AM
It's my attempt at bilingual Afrikaans-English labelling - trying to subtly set the scene in Soweto. I don't speak Afrikaans, only Dutch, so some of the subtleties might be lost...

Had a debate with Mrs. V. about "garnalen smaak" vs. "garnaalsmaak", I opted for the latter since it seemed a more modern usage :D

Cheers,

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on June 18, 2013, 12:45:07 PM
I never realized you spoke Dutch.

To be honest, I don't think I've ever seen cat food cans that specify the word 'flavour' or smaak on it. It's usually just Garnaal. Rund. Varkensvlees etc.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: ghostintheshell on June 18, 2013, 08:10:05 PM
Is that brand of cat food you guys feed the prawns in D9?  :razz:

Great work all round.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 19, 2013, 02:37:56 AM
To be honest, I don't think I've ever seen cat food cans that specify the word 'flavour' or smaak on it. It's usually just Garnaal. Rund. Varkensvlees etc.
I guess that's more accurate, I wanted to make it seem really cheap and trashy rather than something definitely made of real meat. But I guess I shot myself in the foot by listing the main ingredient as mechanically-recovered prawn carcass...

Is that brand of cat food you guys feed the prawns in D9?  :razz:
Not quite - they had two brands called Puddi and Prr, or at least that's what I saw in the film. Call it an homage.

I've done a bit more on the base, applying a layer of texture (crushed earth tinted with dry pigments, plus some odds and sods) using a model railway approach - paint the surface with matte medium, then sprinkle the textures on. Once you have it how you like it, spray with water or alcohol and dribble on dilute (50/50) matte medium with an eyedropper. Sets like a rock, but looks loose:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2814/9082214181_bb17eeaa5c_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9082214181/)

I also made some cat food for the tin, and other bits of junk like the wrinkly tin (more heavy-gauge foil rolled between paintbrush handles) and the bin bags (torn up bin bags). The disposable fork is cut from 10 thou styrene sheet. I've started to weather in the concrete a bit more but the streaks look rather blotchy - mainly down to the lumpy surface.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2858/9084434560_cd0d83dda5_c.jpg)

The cat food is slices of balsa (for the fibrous texture) in a slurry of paint, matte medium, and fine earth dust. I think it needs a bit more bulk around the chunks, and the colour adjusting, but it's a start :)

W

Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 19, 2013, 10:28:42 AM
That's looking sweet Will, the weathering is top notch especially the corrugated metal, and the ground work texture looks very realistic

Digging the cat food! :D
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 20, 2013, 12:17:53 AM
Wow, that is amazing!
Corrugated metal sheet looks great.
Thanks for the tip on ground work – it looks realy great.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 20, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
Sorry for double post but I tried to understand how you did the surface and have some trouble understending.
What did yoiu use as a matt medium? A clear cote?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 20, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
No worries, I never understand why some people are upset about double posts anyway :)

"Matte medium" is an acrylic medium which dries to a (semi) matte finish. Here it's basically used as glue, and I have used both near Klear and dilute PVA in the past with success, but you're more likely to get the odd shiny spot - not so much of an issue with matte medium.

You can get it from art shops - the bottle I have is from Liquitex: http://www.liquitex.com/mattemedium/ (http://www.liquitex.com/mattemedium/)

If you're interested in this style of scenery then Dave Frary's book is a good read: books.google.com/books?isbn=0890244707 (http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0890244707)

I'll try and take some step-by-step pictures when I do the touch-ups. There are pros and cons compared to the more usual putty and texture and paint groundwork you see in plastic modelling books. To my mind the main advantage is you get a more varied surface, and the main problem is you need a reasonable variety of scenic materials (since you aren't necessarily going to paint them, you need the right colours) to achieve this. Pigments and washes can help get more colour variety from fewer textures though.

Railway modellers often have lots of scenic stuff :)

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 20, 2013, 11:19:56 PM
Thanks for the tips and book preview. I will definitely check this out.
I've never done ground work before, but I know my next model I start will be tank and gundam desert dio. So I'm collecting knowledge about dioramas and stuff.
Probably I'll start with clay and texture paint for the first try – especially I'll be working in 1/144 scale. But your work looks so great that it's very tempting to do it this way.

As for double posting. It's an old habit. I used to post on some gaming forum years ago and double posting was banned there. Especially in a short period of time. 
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: JohnLogan on June 21, 2013, 06:28:49 AM
Those cans and debris looks fantastic. I like the fork near the flattened cat food can. 8) :D
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on June 22, 2013, 10:25:41 AM
Looking great! But really... leave no morsel of Puddi behind!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 24, 2013, 02:59:54 AM
Eight out of ten cats wish they hadn't :)

Been fiddling around with this some more, not a very productive week (or weekend) to be honest but I have got a little further. I've poured some water for the very edge of the base, and fixed the big bit of corrugated iron in place, complete with a bit more rust. The second layer of water hasn't quite set yet but I think it'll be OK - it's pouring medium, applied in two thinnish layers with a mist of brown paint in between to get some clouding.

I've also finally had a stab at the drone's power supply - it's a sort of portable battery pack thing. I'm not (yet) in love with it, I think it makes the composition difficult with the two vertical elements but I didn't like it that much placed horizontally either. Maybe it's just a bit too small?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/9125738592_a33e2afd88_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7355/9125737126_5d8e4d32b2_c.jpg)
Flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9125738592/)

I was going to have the drone on the wide side (left) of the back of the diorama, but I think I prefer the middle-right side now.

Any thoughts on the composition? I like the debris side quite a bit, and the parallel of the gun barrel and corrugated iron. Not sure about the other side. Should I give up on the whole cable/power/lighty-up-eyes thing and just get the model right?

It may be that some carefully placed vegetation will help things, I'm just not sure at the moment.

Cheers,

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 24, 2013, 05:50:06 AM
Looking good Will! I think from a composition point of view the only problem is the drone side is very plain compared to the front debris, but i think you thought about vegetation is great idea, some well placed stuff around its feet would look cool.

And i really like the charger unit  :-)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on June 24, 2013, 06:03:36 AM
It's comming great!
Maybe some graffiti work on droid side? And some debris will be nice.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: struschie on June 27, 2013, 09:04:56 PM
Great to see the pictures in context - I should check out this forum more often...
Great kit and cooool paint!
Love the catcan idea. the meat looks ärghs ;)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on June 28, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
Thanks for the comments - I do put some basic info in the description on Flickr, but it's not as in-depth as the forum thread.

I wasn't convinced by my bin-on-legs and i had a suggestion to make a sensor array for the drone to plug into. So I did, to see how it'd work, and I like it quite a bit.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/9156867907_43ec0282fb_c.jpg)
Flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9156867907/)

It's big enough for a CR2032 or CR2016 button cell, but I think I might do better to run the wire down inside the concrete and either make a notch in the base for a cell, or just use something external. It avoids the bother having to make a custom battery holder in a small space.

The sensor is built from Bandai's "Builder's Parts Radome set", which also provided the plugs for the ends of the wire - nice :) Here's how it looks with the sniper:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5541/9156866611_806e83e63f_c.jpg)

I assume the rabbit ear/blade antenna is providing some kind of useful data down the big fat cable.

As you can see I also added some sprayed serial numbers to the concrete blocks, patterned after the kind of thing you see in construction yards. The Tamiya orange looked really bright when sprayed on white paper, but too rusty on the concrete so I've attempted to brighten it a little with thinned GW Blazing Orange (amazing colour) brushed on and then blotted out to preserve the sprayed edges.

Oh, and I did some work on the gun, applying decals and doing detail painting and other jobs. It's a bit messy, to be honest. I was hoping the decals would hide the not-quite-flat side where I filled in the slide, and they don't really. My fault - I chickened out of using some of the larger, high-contrast lettering. Maybe I can fix it with weathering...

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3791/9156870707_b99bd1b5d2_c.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3680/9156869421_dbd7283886_c.jpg)

I added some chips/wear to the blue areas in lighter blue to given them a plasticky feel. It's a bit messy at the moment, I'll see what things look like after a pin wash.

Almost on the home stretch now. I even put a decal on the head and added the washes there! I'm pretty happy with the overall balance now, with some greenery and one more thing (cardboard box) on the drone's side I think it'll hang together nicely. Just hope the water clears so I don't have to pull it up :)

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: FichtenFoo on June 29, 2013, 06:38:08 AM
This is looking really fantastic. I wouldn't mind putting this on the product page if you're up for it when it's done. :-)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on June 29, 2013, 02:21:15 PM
Genius idea with the sensor array, i did like the "bin" but that looks so much cooler! Can't wait to see this finished mate looking killer!
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Dave Diaz on June 29, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
Will,

This is coming together nicely. I really like the composition of the scene, and the sensor idea was a good one. I do have to admit I also like the bin idea too.

dave
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Beork on June 30, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
Loverly, the debris really works with the setting, some odd shoots of green and it would look perfectly finished to me.

Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: JohnLogan on June 30, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
That concrete looks spot on. :D
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 07, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
Thanks for the kind comments, sorry I haven't got anything to show, I really need to get it done since it's soo close, I think I have finishing fear. Plus a week of too much work/caffeine withdrawal last week didn't help. Hopefully some progress soon!

This is looking really fantastic. I wouldn't mind putting this on the product page if you're up for it when it's done. :-)
Ooh, that would be great! I'll try and get some proper quality pictures when I finish up - I used to do everything on a white cylcorama (even WIP pictures) but I've got lazy recently and have just been snapping them on my work table amid the piles of crap :p

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 27, 2013, 10:31:03 PM
Sorry for the lack of progress folks, we had birthdays, and then a scary earthquake, and work has been mental. Oh, and then it was our wedding anniversary this week and we were out for the weekend, but I managed to skive off for a couple of hours this afternoon and do some modelling. I reckon I need to get the sniper mounted so I can do all the in-situ painting and other bits and bobs, so I've been working towards that.

I settled on a place to stand him, making sure that the gun and bipod don't foul the concrete blocks, and the cable is long enough to reach the sensor. Then I drew around his feet and gouged out the texture and filler with a screwdriver so he can stand directly on the flat MDF. I painted the cut edges brown and will fill in with more earth mix when he's installed.

To make the mounting secure, I drilled up into the legs (from inside the heels) about half an inch and inserted some thickish brass rod to make mounting pins. It took two tries to get corresponding holes drilled in the base because the pins exit the feet at a slight angle.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3669/9380351181_6c8d85bb0d_c.jpg)
Flickr link (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9380351181/)

I then set the figure in place again (not glued yet) and marked the sensor location on the concrete block. I drilled up from underneath with a power drill, and then fed a brass tube up into the block to complete the cableway. With that in place I could poke a hole for the wires through the front face and check it met.

The florist's foam is a pain - easy to make holes in, but very hard to fish wires though because it's so soft. As soon as the wire hits the foam it will dig in rather than follow a pre-drilled hole. In the end I got it to work by catching the end in a brass tube inside the hole, feeding in enough wire, and withdrawing the tube. It helps to use both hands so you can feel all the contacts (or lack of them) between the wire and the tube.

Once I've finished detailing the sensor I'll solder the wire joints on the rear face, and pull the LED wiring through using the beading wire which is in there at the moment. Oh, and I drilled out the base with a big spade bit to make a recess for a button cell.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5455/9383134822_e3bcbb2d33_c.jpg)

Not very exciting pictures, but it is legit progress! I'll try and do some more tonight.

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 28, 2013, 06:01:26 PM
So I'm into the scary "final assembly" stage, although that won't be the end of it since I need to do some more painting and decorating before I can claim this finished.

I fed the wires from the back through the sensor after weathering and applying dullcote, then soldered those to some longer wires to run down inside the concrete. The joints were (carefully!) heatshrunk and the wires expoxied into the back of the sensor. Then I added some pins from piano wire and fished the trailing wire through the block using the beading wire I fed through yesterday.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7407/9387326601_e02084137b_c.jpg)
(click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9387326601/))

With that done I expoxied the feet, sensor, rifle and head in place, using blu-tak to set the LED in the right position within the head, and block out light leaks at the neck.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3699/9387359109_36d07f6f07_c.jpg)

I think I need to tweak the set of the cable a bit, although it looks better from the side than the back. It has a strand of .3mm brass wire twisted with the conductors so it can take and hold a pose to some extent.

Oh, and here's the gun which I've slowly been weathering. I think it's a bit over-done now, so I'm going to go back and sponge/drybrush a little of the base colours to tidy things up and try and hide those damn decal edges.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2876/9387358045_352556029e_c.jpg)

For my money there's slightly too much variation, and too much dust.

I also need to add some final details (vegetation, mainly) and touch up the groundwork and some areas of paint on the drone.

Cheers,

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 28, 2013, 09:42:47 PM
Aaaand a bit more. I've been touching up the groundwork and took some step-by-step pictures of how I like to approach it. This is usually a model railway technique (perhaps because it works well on large areas) but I really like it for small stuff too. Apologies if you've seen this kind of thing before.

The idea was to fill around the sniper's feet where I'd cut a bit too much away, and I also did some low spots by the water where you could see the edge.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/9388611621_fd96e99b45_c.jpg)
Click for bigger (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9388611621/)

I'd saved some of my earlier earth mixture - this is a blend of crushed dried earth and soft rock, fine grit, tiny bits of cut up grass, scenic foam, and pigment powder to tint it. You can sprinkle it on but for precision you can't beat a bit of folded card or paper - tap to distribute the stuff.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/9391385432_de2fb75e9e_c.jpg)

Adjust with a soft brush while it's dry - you can't touch it once wet or it will pill up or otherwise not do what you want.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/9391386140_bdf778b7e5_c.jpg)

Wet with a spray bottle of wet water (water with washing up liquid) or dilute alcohol, or neat alcohol. The latter is good for very fine dust-like textures since it has very low surface tension. Get it fairly saturated, but don't make a lake:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5533/9388613757_9d74a8e0af_c.jpg)

Then apply a 50/50 mix of matte medium and water with an eye dropper. You can use PVA too, but it dries a bit glossier. Again, you want to saturate the texture with the glue.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5324/9388614719_5cb39b5958_c.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7292/9388615415_30f6f86dfd_c.jpg)

Then finally sprinkle a bit more loose material on to soak up any pools, and leave for something between six and twenty-four hours to dry. It sets very hard, but looks loose.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/9388616137_cfdfcc3288_c.jpg)

Home stretch now!

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on July 28, 2013, 11:19:34 PM
I always appreciated WIP that shows how to do something step by step. That's why, although I'm new in modeling, I'm trying to show as much as I can during progress. Those of us, who already know that can just skip.

Your progresses are always a pleasure to read and watch and I'm sure I've learn a lot from you. Thank you.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on July 29, 2013, 01:52:05 AM
Nice work Will!

I especially like the warning decal on the gun power cell, cant wait to see this finished
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on July 29, 2013, 06:51:29 AM
Interesting method, Will. Does this also basically glue the drone to the base? Won't that be a bit dangerous if you need to transport it?
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 29, 2013, 02:22:01 PM
I guess it does, but I thought I pretty much had to do that because the sensor really needed to be glued in place and the cables don't have plugs and sockets. It's a risk, but hopefully it won't cause problems. The pins in his legs mean he's not likely to snap off, I suspect any breakage would be in the resin itself.

It's not quite comparable since the objects (and stresses) are mostly smaller, but my railway layouts travel quite happily upside-down or on their sides (I put pairs of boards together facing each other) and nothing falls off. I think if I had to travel far with the sniper I'd make a close-fitting box and either fill it with packing peanuts, or more likely make a foam/styrofoam insert to hold everything in place.

I should add a caveat for the scenery method - around his feet I ended up with some thin white tide marks :( This doesn't usually happen, I suspect it's because its such a thin application. The areas at the front which I touched up at the same time/in the same way are fine. Need to clean that up now.

W
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on July 31, 2013, 02:33:53 AM
Well he's finished! I might want to touch up the water a bit and tweak things, but he was done enough to take along to club night. I'll take some proper pictures tomorrow, but here's a teaser of the plants I added:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/9408357826_06a172e685_c.jpg)
Covered in bees! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/willvale/9408357826/)

Cool news: Apparently Mr. Sniper is going to be the poster boy for our club show. "Because he's not a bl**dy plane or tank or car!". :D

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Jiloo on July 31, 2013, 04:33:48 AM
(...)"Because he's not a bl**dy plane or tank or car!". :D
Love to hear that :)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Hunter Rose on July 31, 2013, 05:07:24 AM
Nice flora! Look forward to final pics Will.

And congrats on being the poster boy  :-)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Sharkdog on July 31, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
Congrats! I'm looking forward to your final photoshoot now :)
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on August 01, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
Pics in the gallery, still might take some more with a black background though - not sure.
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: joewhite on October 16, 2013, 09:42:25 AM
Wow, what an inspirational design, model and above all, build! I've been out of the resin model scene but I now have my eye on this and the Distopic model.

I am in awe with your little sensor! Something so simple adds a story to the scene. I love the concrete walls and tiny detail as well! You, sir, have a new fan! Coming back to this site and seeing the amazing work again has inspired me to continue work on some of my designs and builds. I've been learning Rhino and will probably try to translate some of my drawings into 3D models.

Oh, and the change from the muzzle reducer to the suppressor was a really neat move. The reducer looks tough and appears really well constructed/cast but his sleek and slender build flows much better with the suppressor.

Oh and I didn't get to read the entire thread so if I am repeating something, that's why. Cool stuff and thanks for sharing!

Joe
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: Will Vale on October 22, 2013, 01:08:25 AM
Thanks, that's really kind of you. The sensor is funny - I wouldn't have done it unless I had to run the cable but sometimes these things work out for the best!

If you liked this, have you seen Chris Clayton's "Hush" bust? It's *really* cool:

http://giganticminiatures.com/ (http://giganticminiatures.com/)

MAJOR BROWSING CAVEAT: Sometimes pages on his site redirect to a totally NSFW dodgy dating site (!)  :twitch: :twitch:

Will
Title: Re: Drone Sniper (1/8th scale resin from Industria Mechanika)
Post by: joewhite on October 22, 2013, 09:57:51 AM
I agree! The HUSH sculpt is excellent. And that paint job is ridiculously brilliant!

Joe