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Title: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: walker on December 15, 2008, 10:57:18 AM
Gonna give my MG Spiegel a battle-hardened look without going overboard for a birthday present for my brother. Anyway point being I'm replacing the dark blue with black because the other two colors are red and yellow (aside from the white) and I wanted the red-yellow-black of the German flag. My question is any suggestions on weathering black surfaces? Usually you weather with a darker color than the surface color but that's not an option here.

I want to do some paint chipping, so I'm considering whether dark gray would show up well enough on black because that's what I'll be using on the rest of the kit. If not, steel would look kind of ridiculous if the rest of the kit is chipped with dark grey right? Also, for a wash, would it be stupid and/or pointless to give the black colors a dark grey wash? (Leaning towards yes to both on this one.) Anyway, examples and/or suggestions would be HUGELY helpful here. Thanks
Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 15, 2008, 04:47:14 PM
Chipping with a brown-gray/rust-gray on black works well. Also, avoid black and use a German Gray... or use black and shade with german gray.

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Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: walker on December 15, 2008, 05:19:13 PM
I used to use Schwarzgrau, but not for black--just for joints and the like. How dark is that compared to German gray?

Are those rust pigments?

I spy Zaku II knee joints.
Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: Tuxedo-Zaku on March 19, 2009, 09:51:09 PM
What color would be recommended for doing the panel lines against a black model?  The greys I have used (grey tamiya acrylic, grey and light grey stabilo technical pens) do not show up at all against the gloss coat.  I do not want to use white because it would mingle with my white stripes.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: chaos_theory on March 20, 2009, 06:50:28 AM
I would suggest using enamel paint like humbrol if you can find it. Testors will work but not as well in my opinion. Use a light/medium gray. There is a thread of funaka's somewhere here where he talks about using humbrol enamels and thinning them with Ronsonol lighter fluid. I'll post it here when I track it down
Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: Tuxedo-Zaku on March 21, 2009, 01:18:36 AM
Grey Testors seemed to have worked ok!  Thanks for the advice- I'm not sure why the grey acrylic would not show up against the black while the enamel would.
Title: Re: Weathering black-painted surfaces?
Post by: chaos_theory on March 21, 2009, 09:40:42 AM
sometimes using Tamiya acrylics over tamiya acrylics will cause bleeding or blending of the colors. The thinner can cause it, grays & whites just aren't strong enough cover, paint may not have really held to the layer under it or if the paint wasn't sealed before the wash.

Lots of probable culprits, glad it worked tho.