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« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2010, 05:17:01 PM »

Progress Report: 

BD Conversion: Done (I know I need pics)
RX-78 2.0: Done (ditto)
Astray Blue Frame:  Great weather today so I got all the parts base coated.  Future tonight for panel line tomorrow Iam about half way done with this one and if the wife will let me keep working while the weather is good.  I should be able to finish this in the next few days
Exia: No progress

2 down 1 1/2 to go.

I amazed at how much I have gotten done with a new baby in the house.  I still might try to do another  BD conversion, I have also toyed with trying to do my Nightengale 2.o conversion from SMS.  We'll see LOL.
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« Reply #61 on: March 18, 2010, 05:50:14 PM »

New babies are easy! It's when they get bigger and don't sleep as much that the challenge begins as you already know IIRC. Looking forward to the pics. (kits, not kids Razz)
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« Reply #62 on: March 18, 2010, 05:57:59 PM »

New babies are easy! It's when they get bigger and don't sleep as much that the challenge begins as you already know IIRC. Looking forward to the pics. (kits, not kids Razz)
Well it's hard to paint with a baby in your arms.  Believe me I've tried.  LOL  I will try to take an informal pic of the 2 completed kits so you no I am not fibbing.  Oops
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« Reply #63 on: March 18, 2010, 06:15:08 PM »

So Mike I have a question for you.  I now have all of this cool MIG oils and pigments.  One thing that I have learned during this little challenge is one of 2 things. either panel lines are the hardest damn thing or I  just suck at them.  I had a hell of a time with the RX-78.  I think my Future coat was to thick and it filled in a bunch of the lines so I am going to try thinning the Futuer with some Tmiya thinner and try your method of several mist coats

 I would like to try to use some of the MIG oils to panel line the Astray so 2 questions.  How much should I thin the oil with turponoid and 2nd.  How long before I can top coat the oil panel line?  I know this should go in the help section but I thought I would ask here since it pertains to the challenge.
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« Reply #64 on: March 18, 2010, 06:23:21 PM »

No worries! I talked Adam into the new "Starship Filth" color with this stuff specifically in mind. I never measure stuff so it's hard to give you an exact, but probably a little thinner than you would use to airbrush with. If you use a teaspoon of thinner, then just a smudge or two of oils will do.

Too thick with the paint and coats will definitely affect the panel lines and sometimes the paint will just not flow down the lines no matter what you do. That's why I use a thin brush. The excess is easily wiped away after it loses its gloss sheen  with an ever so slightly turp-dampened paper towel scrap.

As for how long afterward, I've added another coat of FFA on these past 4 gundams just after finishing the panel lines. Obviously for thicker jobs like discoloration, waiting a day or two is a must.
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« Reply #65 on: March 18, 2010, 06:27:27 PM »

Thanks for the reply.  I saw the new oils they added so it's cool they are starting to cater to the Sci-Fi guys.
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« Reply #66 on: March 18, 2010, 09:10:15 PM »

OK some pics finally.  Just some quick on camera flash so nothing fancy until I have tim to set up.  You will also see a size comparison to my 1/100 Kyshatryia.

Enjoy:
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To Be Continued!!!!!
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« Reply #67 on: March 19, 2010, 06:12:04 AM »

Another update: 

Man there is nothing like building like a mad man to learn  ton of things.  What I have learned so far during this challenge:

1.  Thinned Future kicks ass!!!! I mean I though it was good straight from the bottle but thinned I am able to get a glass like finish the first time without all the build up.
2.  I hate panel lining.  I think part of it is that Future straight out the bottle is just to thick and I ended up filling what little detail there was on the RX-78 2.0
3.  Time flies when things are going your way. LOL I was up until 2:00 am putting the first coat of Future on the Astray parts and did not realize that I had been spraying for over 3 hours.
4.  Clean your airbrush,  DUH!!!! Seems obvious but I tore it apart and gave everything a good 2 hour soak in thinner before I started the Astray and I found that most of my dirt problems were coming from my airbrush.  I still have some dirt but it's just a few specks not even noticeable.
5.  Use my other air compressor.  I fired up my big air compressor that I use for my air tools and used it to blow off each part before painting.  It's freaking noisy as hell but much more efficient than canned air.

OK a few picks of the Astray:
As with the RX-78 2.0 I decided not prime any of the parts.  Mainly because I did not want it to be obvious if some paint got scratched off.

The blue parts are Mr. Color Metallic Blue #76 straight out of the bottle.  I love the way it looks and with a gloss coat it really shines
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The Metallic parts are a mix of Alclaid Stainless Steel and Jet Exhaust mixed 1/1.  By accident it is almost the same color as the bare plastic but is a little brighter and has a much better shine.
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No close ups of the grey or orange parts but the grey is Mr. Color Mitsubishi Grey (the same as on my BD conversion but no pre shading) and the orange parts are Mr. Color fluorescent orange with a few coats of clear yellow on top.
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Another tip.  This is how I mix my paint.  I buy these epoxy mixing cups from my LHS.  They are marked in Drams and Oz. and make measure super easy.  Also I use metal mixing tins as a cover on top of my mixed paint so that is readily available and it also keeps dust out.
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Thats it for now. I have to get a lot done today since I am in garage now I have to take advantage of the good weather.  And if you have never been to Texas get this,  it is going to get up to 75 degrees today and then snow tomorrow.  How f*cked up is that.  Every day it's a different season here.

So today I m going to give my MIG oils a try for panel lines.  I plan on mixing Blue and Black oils for the grey and orange parts and straight black for the metallic parts.  I think I might give the fame a wash of black too to bring out all the details.   Then Decals and final coat of Future. This kit has so many detail you could spend a month on just on painting details.  Probably one of the best MG kits put out yet.

Hey Mike, if you have made it through this post LOL.  I love the thinned Future and I want to use it for my final flat coat on the armor as well.  Do I mix the Future with Tamyia flat base as normal then thin that mixture 50/50 with Tamyia Thinner?



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« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2010, 07:50:13 AM »

LOL! I actually did read it all. Yeah, thin the future after adding the flat base. Glad you like the technique. I was pretty amazed when I started doing it as well. You'll also start to find it funny when you get the comments "you thin your future?!"

The First two look really good! The BD is especially nice.
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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2010, 08:01:04 AM »

LOL! I actually did read it all. Yeah, thin the future after adding the flat base. Glad you like the technique. I was pretty amazed when I started doing it as well. You'll also start to find it funny when you get the comments "you thin your future?!"

The First two look really good! The BD is especially nice.

Cool thanks, long post Oops.  I am pretty happy with the BD the RX really isn't that great in my eyes but I still like it.  Anoher thing I have learned that I forgot to put in my list
6.  Doing a clean kit without shading is so much harder.  Mistakes stick out a whole lot more. 
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« Reply #70 on: March 20, 2010, 08:04:20 AM »

Little update on the Astray and my never ending battle with panel lines.

Inner Frame all done and put together.  Its a lot of blue but once the armor is one I think it will look nice.
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So here is what I used more my panel lines this time:
MIG Oils Faded Navy Blue, Black, and a touch of Snow White
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A 00 Brush
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I mixed the oils with some odorless turponoid to a watery consistency.

Pic of part before panel line.
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Part after panel line before cleaning it up
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I think the lines will look good once all done.  Better than my last attempt.

I do like using the oils.  They are easy to clean up and when thinned enough they flow very nicely.  I am have a little trouble when cleaning them up.  I tend to take to much of the oils off leaving and inconsistent line.  This is one technique that I need lots of practice with.  So since the weather sucks to day I think I will put some decals on some of the other parts and finish up cleaning the panel lines.  I will test one part out with my Flat Future mix to see it fogs over.  It's pretty cold and it's raining so I don't what will happen.

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« Reply #71 on: March 20, 2010, 11:33:10 PM »

Final update before all done.  Just finished the decals just going to let them sit over night and then tomorrow final gloss and flat coats of Future, wait 5-6 hours to cure, the final assembly.  WHOOOHOOOO!!!!
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« Reply #72 on: March 21, 2010, 05:19:31 PM »

Astray is done!!!!

Again just a few quick shots. I will take formal pics of the first 3 tomorrow an put them in the gallery.

So I don't know if you can call my paint custom since it's pretty close to the original but I'm calling it custom to meet thre requirements of the challenge LOL Oops

I must say that I am pretty happy with my panel lines this time.  They could be a little sharper but I am getting there.

Thanks to Mike for selling me his decals.

Not sure of the final pose,  I might change it it but I have a few tiny scratches already.  Luckily you can't see them.
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3 Down one to go.  Just working on color scheme for Exia.  Thinking a Yin Yang kid of look.  Also toying with a chrome or super silver frame.  I already have a pose in mind so I think once I finalize the pose I will be ready to paint because if I do chrome or super silver I am sure to get scratches if I try to change the pose.

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« Reply #73 on: March 21, 2010, 08:52:25 PM »

The Astray looks great Matt! Really like the blue panel lines on it. All these MG's being built makes me want to build some of my bajillions of MG's sitting around.
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« Reply #74 on: March 21, 2010, 09:26:32 PM »

Thank you sir!!  I'm pretty happy with it.  First time I used flattened Future and first time thinning Future for gloss coat and I am a total convert. No more super clear for me.  I have been having isues with my panel lines.  For some reason they are hard for me but I thought they turned out pretty good.

I will get some "real photos" tomorrow.  I guess I should since I am a photographer. Sarcasm
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« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2010, 09:32:30 PM »

The Astray looks great Matt! Really like the blue panel lines on it. All these MG's being built makes me want to build some of my bajillions of MG's sitting around.

Well stop building bad ass resin kits and kit some plastic dust in those lungs.  Of course after you so the 1/35 Stamen.  Razz
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« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2010, 03:49:21 PM »

It's been quite a while since I had anything to update on my progress. Delay after delay have kept my projects at a standstill. Rainy days for the last couple weeks had completely halted my painting, but finally today I was able to start painting on my unicorn gundam's frame, and was able to get a primer coat on my victory gundam. Hopefully I will have enough dry days this week to finish up on the frames, and get started painting the armor parts. I'm going to have to push pretty hard while I have some dry weather to make up for all this lost time.
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« Reply #77 on: March 25, 2010, 09:08:37 PM »

Final update for me.  Just finished decals on the Exia. Final top coats tomorrow and assembly then on to the gallery along with the other 3.  Can't believe I got 4 kits done in 4 weeks.  Unreal for me.  I think as a bonus I am going to tackle my Nightengale 2.0 conversion.  I hope to get it done under the April 30th deadline.
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« Reply #78 on: March 26, 2010, 07:07:15 AM »

Awesome! Pretty amazing what you can do when you put your mind to it. I think that I'll have my Leto sculpt done and the GN-X as well as starting something like the Dino before the actual deadline. Woo!
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« Reply #79 on: March 26, 2010, 09:00:25 PM »

All done!!!!
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