Author Topic: Looking for Robotech Defenders/Dougram Builds or info.  (Read 4675 times)

August 06, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
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Maschinen Krueger

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I picked up a Condar a couple of weeks ago. Simple little kit that I plan to make not so simple by building new hands, grafting a MG frame, and detailing the cockpit. I picked the kit up for cheep on EBay and it's quite a throwback feelin' to the olden days when I built the kit the first time when I was 12.  :D I still have some of the parts in the spares bin.

Searching around, I haven't seen many built Defenders/Dougram online. I've seen this site
http://www.draddog.com/robotech/ Is there anything else? Something better.

Are there any Japanese fan sites for Dougram builds?

Is there any line art for the cockpit or mechanics?

What are the original H102 Bushman colors? The colors on MAHQ are dreadful. I'll either paint it like the box art, Dougram colors, or something else.

Thanks.
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August 07, 2009, 06:31:38 AM
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Way back in the 80's I built quite a few of the Revell Robotech kits mainly in 1/72 scale due to the high cost of these kits in the UK at the time. I could be mistaken but I believe these kits were made by Takara and just repackaged for the US and European markets.

Another thought.

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Keen-eyed Battletech players will notice that a lot of the Robotech Defenders models look like battlemechs from the original Battletech game from FASA. The reason for this is that all of the original edition's 'Mech visuals were based on designs from a variety of anime series, including Macross. Eventually FASA got embroiled in a lawsuit with Harmony Gold and Playmates over the use of the Macross images. As a result FASA dropped all of the derived images (not just the Macross ones) and later editions of Battletech had new visuals for all of the original edition 'Mechs. (On a side note, the Battletech game was originally titled Battledroids, but a lawsuit with Lucasfilm over the use of the term "droid" caused them to change the game's title.)

Above from. http://www.karridian.net/robotech_defenders.html

My brother used to have some very impressive (22" x 34") Battletech blueprints of some of these mechs, I wish I had the plans for the Battletech Scorpion (Dougram F35C Blizzard Gunner).




F35C Blizzard Gunner


August 07, 2009, 11:34:40 AM
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Bishop,

You found one of the links I did this morn. I have that Blizzard Gunner built somewhere.
Had to dig and dig to find this. Very similar to what I have planned.

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/d.i.o/orabush06.htm

must be a big fan of the design

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/d.i.o/orabush07.htm

but this was most interesting

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/d.i.o/orabush614/orabush614.htm

all found via this site

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/d.i.o/

and some useful CGI renderings of various Dougram

http://www.oldcake.net/viewthread.php?action=printable&tid=776
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August 08, 2009, 04:53:37 AM
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You've found some good stuff there Maschinen Krueger, very interesting.


Takara 1/72 Blizzard Gunner (they also did this kit in 1/48th)
http://benio.org/o-garage/blizzard/blizzard.html

Takara 1/72 Ironfoot F4X Hasty
http://benio.org/o-garage/hasty/hasty.html

Revell Robotech also reboxed kits from Arii and Imai.

http://www.coolkits.de/robotech/index.html

Matchbox also made Robotech toys back in the 80's, now admittedly this is rather basic but I reckon I could do something with it.
http://anymoon.com/blog/2007/08/27/matchbox-officer-pod-glaug/


August 10, 2009, 06:29:13 PM
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I've got a complete Hasty/Gartan waiting for a restoration. Not sure what to do with it yet. There's also an unbuilt Exaxes\Ishkick awaiting its turn. Both are 1/48. The rest of my Revell Robotech kits are in pieces or missing altogether. Heck they were dime a dozen when I was a kid. Back then when a kit went out of production it actually went on clearance.

Edit - I also have the "Airborne Attackers" heli. Realistically I don't think it would fly since the rotor wash is blocked by the huge fuselages so I'm thinking of converting it to some sort of ducted fan propulsion.
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Ron

August 11, 2009, 06:48:22 AM
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Bishop - 1/48 Blizzard, are you sure, I've never seen a 1/48 of that one, Tequila and Desert Gunner were in 1/48.

I have the Scorpion/Blizzard Gunner from the Assault Squad somewhere, rescued it from a heathen at the dorms ages ago. It's missing a part and needs some love. It's on to do list but way at the bottom.

Spiffitz - I had the heli, thought it was the coolest thing. You're right about lift so maybe a big fan right in the center.

I use to have these. Most of these I picked up at a KayBee factory outlet around 88-89. All are lost to BB guns, fire, or the trash bin.  :stupid:
Ziyon x2
Thoren
Zoltek
Condar - I found an arm, a leg and a bit of canopy still in the spares.
Talos
Assault Squad
Robot Recovery Unit
Airborne Attackers
Nebo
Vexar
Search Patrol
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August 11, 2009, 10:24:44 AM
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This is the only pic I could find of a 1:48 scale Blizzard Gunner kit. If you look at the missile pod on the pic below and compare it to pics of the 1:72nd scale Blizzard Gunner you'll notice that the piece that attaches the missile pod to the mech is actually more detailed on the smaller 1:72nd scale kit.

1:48th scale.
http://toyboxdx.com/brog/wp-content/images/2007/02/wonder7.jpg

1:72nd scale
http://benio.org/o-garage/blizzard/blizzard.html


Admittedly I could still be wrong on this, I won't be happy until I see a pic of the kit box.

 b


August 11, 2009, 11:03:30 AM
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That looks like a resin kit, which means limited production and availability.

To me it looks 1/35.
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August 11, 2009, 09:41:28 PM
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KayBee.. Damn we're old! :D My transforming ones also suffered burnt and explosive deaths mainly because the joints were so crappy that once they snap after the 3rd transformation I had nothing else to do with them. I have a few odds and ends from them in my parts pile. I also have a complete Orguss-looking one but it's a glue bomb with 3mm thick paint on it.

For the heli I was thinking of intakes in front with fans and/or swivel nozzles on the side, Harrier-style. Or I could just thin out and streamline the fuselage to more realistic proportions.


Ron

August 12, 2009, 06:11:53 AM
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I wonder about the guy that can sit through a David Lynch movie and say, "I saw that coming."

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August 13, 2009, 07:49:41 AM
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I've got no idea as to who actually produces this kit but it is 1/48 scale.



Maschinen Krueger wrote.

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That looks like a resin kit, which means limited production and availability

Agreed, I thought initially that it was a plastic kit but I reckon you're right and it is resin. Probably impossible to get hold of one these, scratch building one in 1/35 is tempting though.



Page on the Dougram Transporter Truck.
http://noboland.web.fc2.com/dougram1.htm

Dougram wheeled APC.
http://noboland.web.fc2.com/dougram2.htm

Dougram Native Dancer 6x6
http://noboland.web.fc2.com/dougram3.htm

1/48 and 1/72 scale hovercraft
http://noboland.web.fc2.com/dougram4.htm



 b :-)



August 13, 2009, 08:03:46 AM
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Well, the little plaque does say 1/48 so I was half right which is better than what I usually average. 

1/35 would be HUGE but so bad ass.  :lol:

What always struck me about the Dougram 4 and 6 leg walkers was the sheer size of the machine to carry such a small a cannon and maybe a missile pod. 
I wonder about the guy that can sit through a David Lynch movie and say, "I saw that coming."

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