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Insect Wings
« on: February 16, 2009, 04:51:24 PM »
Okay guys, here's a tough one! While waiting for the 31 days comp to start I pulled out my Nausicaa Mowe kit to putz around with. I've already modded Nausicaa into a different flight pose a few years ago. On the box art is a "flying tapeworm" type thing. I've made a similar creature (mold is curing now for the segments) but need insect-type wings. Probably 1.5-2" long and 4-6 of them. Kind of like dragonfly wings.

So how do I do this? The raised veins are the hard part.

I've considered printing out wing patterns on clear acetate, but that won't give me raised veins.

Clear gel medium is too thick to "paint" veins on.

And I want these to be clear so I can't just make them from styrene sheet and putty. Even if I made them to be casted, once in clear any misalignments for the veins from the front to back would show up and look weird in clear.

Real insect wings might work, but are too delicate/hard to find.

If I can find a decent "toy" wing set I can cast it in clear resin. But on a shopping trip to Big Lots and the dollar store for groceries I didn't see anything useful.

So any suggestions? Anyone have the perfect wing (set) for me to cast?

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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 06:14:26 PM »
maybe try tracking down an entomologist - try finding some dragon fly/butterfly/cicada wings...

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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 06:25:02 PM »
How about:

- Optical fibre glued on acetate?
- Fishing line glued on acetate?
- Thin string made with hot glue while it cools down, glues on acetate?
- Copper wire glued on acetate.

Those could then be cast in clear resin.

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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 06:48:00 PM »
I may have a few things if you can gimme a day to sort through my parts bins. I will photograph with ruler for scale.
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 07:08:57 PM »
chaos: Cool, let me know!

ThuOok: All those can work, but I wanted to steer clear of gluing round items to acetate. one because the conntection points would need filled and two because of the undercuts. If only I had a clear clay!

fulcy: There's nice wings for sale on ebay, but they're coated in a thick resin and look as if they have a 2mm "flash" edge. Not sure if they can be trimmed/cleaned up nicely or if the nice vein ridges are still embossed. Might be totally flat. might as well sandwich some printouts between acetate if that's the case. Now if I had real wings I could do a nice thin protective coat since real wings are quite brittle on their own.
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 09:17:57 AM »
OK so I have found a few things but only one really fits your described needs... Real dragonfly wings!


the Baxter Stockman


manga Spawn


itty-bitty wings
« Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 09:18:33 AM by chaos_theory »
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 10:03:10 AM »
Those real ones would be ideal. How strong are they?

And LOL @ Baxter Stockman. But those might work casted in clear if the backs are identically mirrored in detail.
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 10:29:44 AM »
Those real ones would be ideal. How strong are they?

I used real insect wings (wasp and giant mosquito) for a project of mine.
They are quite brittle, but after I added white glue + multiple layers of Tamiya clear cote they became quite flexible and sturdy:



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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 10:45:00 AM »
Joa is right, they are paper thin and unpreserved. If I were to mount in a small box the dragonfly could be shipped without damage and you could coat them as Joa has done above.

The baxter stockman wings are not perfectly mirrored (pretty close though) and are a little over 2mm thick at the thinnest point.
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 12:17:58 PM »
Awesome! Thanks guys! Chaos, let's continue this via PM.
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Re: Insect Wings
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2009, 10:33:45 AM »
I was in my yard yesterday since it was a rare nice Feb day and saw some Maple seed "twirlies". I think CTT's wings will work but if all else fails I might be able to use some of these in the spring when green and fresh to make some molds.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Maple-seed.jpg
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