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making perfect grade style hands
« on: December 24, 2004, 12:41:32 PM »
im trying to make perfect grade style hands with styrene sheets
does anyone know where there is a tutorial?

thanks in advance

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making perfect grade style hands
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2004, 03:45:50 PM »
I have some suku suku scans I can post up later tonight. Too busy right now. :wink:

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2004, 06:24:57 AM »
wow thats really cool
just what i was looking for
thanks so much  :D

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2004, 09:05:51 AM »
A while back I experimented with making posable hands - though they were for a Perfect Grade and not for a Master Grade, so I don't know if the approach would work at the smaller scale.

Basically I built each knuckle as a wire-on-wire joint and then cast resin around each half of the hinge.  Each hinge was meant to look like a sphere with a line down the middle.  The hinges would then be connected with finger segments made from styrene tubing.  I built a few knuckles this way but never finished a complete hand.  Probably the joints would not be able to support the weight of a weapon (but PG fingers can't, either.) but I was satisfied that the joints would be able to hold more load than their kit-supplied counterparts.

I don't have a great description of the procedure, (I tried my best, but it's not something I can effectively communicate with just words.  I need to make pictures if I want to turn it into a tutorial.)  but here's the information I do have:

http://1-4-4.home.comcast.net/models/Projects/1_60_Zaku/hinge_construction.html

It might be possible to scale this down to 1:100, the real trick is how to make the wire-on-wire hinges that sit in the core of the joint.  For the original prototypes I used steel sewing pins for the hinge loops and 1mm flower wire for the hinge core pin.  The design depends on a soft, malleable metal for the center pin, and a tough, springy metal for the hinge loops that wrap around it.  Music wire might do the trick, but it all depends on the tools you have for bending the wire to the right shape.  Bending the wire is by far the hardest part of making these hinges.

And, of course, my hinge design is dependent on external pressure from the finger segments to keep the two halves of the hinge together.  Whether this is an acceptable limitation depends on how you want the hands to look, basically.

I also tried the styrene-on-styrene hands shown in that article once, about 3-4 years ago...  but I used metal pins instead of plastic.  It's not a bad way to go, and it's reasonably easy to make the hands look good, but I've heard that using plastic-on-plastic yields a better joint than the plastic-on-metal I was using.  I gave up on the idea because the prototypes I built were too fragile.  But it helps if you can make your work precise, too.  Drill those holes dead-on center.  If you have some kind of drill press to make the holes nice an perpendicular, and set up a jig of some kind to align the strip in the right position, (or if you're just really good at eyeballing this stuff) there's a chance you could make that kind of hand really work out.

But someone also once told me that that article also specifically says that if you build those hinge hands, you need to expect them to wear out over time.  For the most part I've given up on posable hands in favor of well-detailed static hands for precisely that kind of reason.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2005, 04:23:09 AM »
FF,

Can you please post those pictures again?  I tried accessing it but the site said that the file am looking for is not there anymore.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 11:20:41 AM »
Actually, I was wondering this myself, and the links are down. If possible, not even PG style hands, but just how to make good looking hands? I mean, most MG and HGUC come with multiple hand configurations, but they are still very lacking. How do people make their own hands? For example... The kit I'm working on now I would like to make a hand to hold the bazooka, and the other hand to have the fingers flared out.
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Re: making perfect grade style hands
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 07:30:29 PM »
thanks, these are perfect.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 10:16:48 PM »
Wow!!! Thanks for the Chaos Theory. I have been looking for different ways to scratchbuild hands for my 1/35 hazel.

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 12:15:04 AM »
No problem guys.  I saw the links were dead and remebered I had these.  8)
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 12:55:40 PM »
Can anyone please post those pictures again cause the links are dead

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Re: making perfect grade style hands
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 07:14:47 PM »
I added them to my Flickr page. Actually I added all my suku suku scans.






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Re: making perfect grade style hands
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 02:07:00 PM »
thanks  :D