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FichtenFoo Monoracer
« on: May 22, 2007, 06:15:39 AM »
I might as well post up one of my ideas to get the ball rolling. (this is the reason for a thread about monocycles in OT a while back) Here's my monoracer. Not sure *if* or *how* it'd work, but I wanted something slick looking. I based it a little on the Venus Wars racer. I think I want to do it in 1/24 since I can get cycle drivers in that scale cheaply IIRC to modify. I just need to find a tire that'll work and someone offered to lathe me up one so that huge hurtle might be overcome.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/Design1c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/Design1d.jpg
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 06:45:40 AM »
Very innovative design, the FF skin reminds me of your website theme itself, which is a nice touch.

That being said, it probably wouldn't pass any crash safety tests, haha.

Nice job~

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2007, 09:36:00 AM »
I have some thoughts, if you don't mind. In deceleration the torque would pitch the whole thing forward regardless of counterweight. Small front wheels could be fitted to take the hits. Being a monowheel and assuming it is traction-propelled rather than thrust, the acceleration rate would be limited by the torque required to flip the body over backwards. There would also be very large gyroscopic forces at work with such a huge wheel; how would it steer?

It'd be cool if you manage to balance the model on its rotating wheel.
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2007, 11:07:12 AM »
spiffitz, those are all good points, but I think some anime magic would fix the issues.

Decelerate?  What's that?  :evil:

Steering?  Just lean!!  :lol:

Loving the design FF, fit a lunar pawn on there... :sarcasm:

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 01:25:46 PM »
spiffitz, those are all good points, but I think some anime magic would fix the issues.

Decelerate?  What's that?  :evil:

Steering?  Just lean!!  :lol:

Loving the design FF, fit a lunar pawn on there... :sarcasm:

HAHA!!!

I really like the entire idea of this moonracer. However, logically speaking... I think the entire racer would function better, (and maybe look a bit more aerodynamic) if the pilot were behind the huge wheel...

Of course, your suggested green paint scheme is amazing, as always with your artwork.

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 01:35:24 PM »
My racer can kick your racer's ass.   :razz:  :razz:  :razz:


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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 04:45:38 PM »
Heh, well he did ask if it would work. The "anime fix" would negate any problems it has, with the added bonus of a "racing suit" that consists of a small piece of leather covering nothing but the lady driver's essentials. I'd add some thrusters and stuff to help it lean and steer. It looks great all sleek as he designed it, but imagine it with thrust bells, louvers, and other "hard core racing parts" added to it.
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2007, 03:46:38 AM »
I just remembered, theres a similar vehicle in an anime I just started watching called KIBA.

I seem to remember huge wheeled police cars in Episode 1 (they might ahve been 3 wheelers though, cant say i can remember exactly)... Might be worth checking out to see how such a machine might manuver?

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2007, 01:56:31 PM »
Hey... very original design. I really like it.... and donĀ“t matter about the physics i aggree with major...... some anime magic and is done  8)
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2007, 02:19:05 AM »
I like the idea but I think you could place half lenticular wheel like on Sbarro's Bikes
http://www.burningart.com/meico/moto/sbarro/

Actually you can't ride something like this try a bike one day  ^_^

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2007, 03:07:00 AM »
is cool  ,look like a monobikes of venus wars but more simple and pure lines .

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2007, 03:43:15 PM »
Thanks everyone! I put up a page for my build here:
http://fichtenfoo.com/02GiantRobots/02b-MonoRacer.htm

I've been checking out all kinds of cycle pics to figure out how I wanna design the internals. Gotta add some carbon fiber too. :lol:

I have some thoughts, if you don't mind. In deceleration the torque would pitch the whole thing forward regardless of counterweight. Small front wheels could be fitted to take the hits. Being a monowheel and assuming it is traction-propelled rather than thrust, the acceleration rate would be limited by the torque required to flip the body over backwards. There would also be very large gyroscopic forces at work with such a huge wheel; how would it steer?

It'd be cool if you manage to balance the model on its rotating wheel.


The steering would be done by shifting ones weight just like real life monocycles. As for the front wheels, I have skids for that sort of scenario, but might add some small rollerblade sized wheels as well. Plus as MB said... anime magic!

I just remembered, theres a similar vehicle in an anime I just started watching called KIBA.

Pics and links please!

« Last Edit: June 14, 2007, 03:44:35 PM by FichtenFoo »
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 05:02:12 PM »
I saw this and thought it would be a cool reference for your mono racer.

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 05:06:28 PM »
Yeah... that's the real one that I was basing this offa. Pretty cool eh? Not sleek or pretty at all, but it works!
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2007, 12:58:29 AM »
I was looking through a few sites when I found this: http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/bombadier_embrio.html

Maybe you could work some of those ideas into your monoracer? And, the site provides a description on how it balances, so your monoracer won't need to rely on pure anime magic now!

Can't wait to see how it turns out!

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 08:21:39 AM »
I know nothing...NOTHING!
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 06:33:56 AM »
Sigh... this project is at kind of a standstill at the moment. I want to work on it in the worst way, but I lack one MAJOR ingredient which is the wheel. I've looked at the tire stock of a couple RC shops but nothing really works well. Either too wide or too big or too small. Blah! And I'm very picky about what I want in a wheel for this too... I have in my head what I want and just need that one part to get started since most everything will be based off the final wheel.

So anyway, does anyone have access to a lathe and if so would you mind lathing up a wheel for me? :embarrased: Below is a sketch of what I'm looking for. Please PM me with a quote on what it'd cost to produce and in what material. Each square on the grid is 1/2 inch. Thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/00000wheel.jpg

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2007, 06:41:07 AM »
What is the scale up between the section view, and the close up of the section view?

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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 06:45:46 AM »
Heh... no clue! I just made that bigger to show the details. I didn't even consider doing that.
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Re: FichtenFoo Monoracer
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2007, 08:24:11 AM »
Michael, You can use O-Ring for the tyre. Rim can be scratcbuild.

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