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Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 23, 2005, 12:32:53 PM
Post your AoZ references and questions about the series here!

Post links, links to scans, etc...

Image Posting Guidelines (http://fichtenfoo.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=293) apply.  :wink:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: gamerabaenre on August 23, 2005, 12:43:29 PM
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/index.htm
What I used for paint scheme ideas and such.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 23, 2005, 12:52:30 PM
If you need more references, I own the 3 AoZ books so can make some scans.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 23, 2005, 05:42:06 PM
Yeah, scans are great. Just don't mess your books up in the process.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 24, 2005, 01:54:00 AM
Yeah they are pretty fragile, that's why I can't scan it all in once... but I can do stuff on demand.
Here's a forum with a lot of scans from the books:
http://s7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?act=idx
Most of the scans are here http://s7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?showtopic=51 but there're probably some more in the other sections of the forum.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 24, 2005, 05:52:33 AM
Those links are very helpfull Ezechiel
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 24, 2005, 06:00:28 AM
Nice find! Gotta love the "Save Page" feature for grabbing a ton of those files at once!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 24, 2005, 12:13:48 PM
Hey Ezecheil, there Some good mods for the Hazel II but there to small to read u think u could make them a little bigger
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 24, 2005, 03:07:26 PM
Sure, just be more precise on what you want! (pics of the pages would be a good start)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 25, 2005, 04:37:55 AM
Thanks E, page 39 and the one right above the ashimar and below the ashimar prototype sorry I can't see the page number for this one.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 25, 2005, 04:49:51 AM
Ok you'll have to do better than that because there's 3 books and there's no mods for the Hazel II  on each page 39. You said you had a pic of it  that was too small. Could you show me that?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 25, 2005, 05:04:33 AM
Page 39 wasn't really a mod but had pics of the back unit for the hazel II which I'm going to scratchbuild sorry about that I just put them all as mods. And the pic I don't have I was saying the second link had good mods and refrences for the Hazel II that were to small.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 25, 2005, 05:20:20 AM
Ok I'm confused. So basicaly you want pics of that, right?
(http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4756/h2bp0gg.th.jpg) (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=h2bp0gg.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 25, 2005, 05:34:41 AM
I figured this was getting confusing. Page 39 is right next to the Hazel Custom on the first post from Bazookafied. The page with the mods are on the second post from Bazookafied, below the Ashimar Prototype pic.

Also I'm going off the second Link to Titans Test Team.

I hope this helps :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 25, 2005, 05:49:18 AM
Ez: While you're scanning, I wouldn't mind seeing more pics of the Stutzer Zaku, Dom and Gelgoog pictured on that bazookafied link. I wanna see some non-side views and or close-ups of the sketches on pg 30. I have an MG Zaku that I bought from Amazon cheap. I was gonna use it for parts, but maybe there's something better to do with it. :wink:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 25, 2005, 06:04:30 AM
I get it, it was the page numbers of DHM, not of the artbooks. So here it is, I do hope that's what you want.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/e.jpg

These are not scans, by the way, but pictures. It's more book friendly. :D
Ok so now, Zeon!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 25, 2005, 06:13:19 AM
Your pics are highly appreciated Ez, Thank you  :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on August 25, 2005, 07:14:43 AM
For FF:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/19.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/20.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/21.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/23.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/24.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/25.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/26.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/27.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/28.jpg

Sorry for the low quality, if you need one with a better quality, tell me and I'll try to do better.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 25, 2005, 08:32:58 AM
Thanks Ez, those are great for now.  8)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Turbo-Squid on August 25, 2005, 01:26:03 PM
I've never seen AoZ, so could you guys tell me if my in progress Z+ qualifys for this group build?  I need a deadline for this thing... :meh:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on August 26, 2005, 06:37:28 AM
Yea it qualifys Turbo_squid
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on August 26, 2005, 07:44:51 AM
Well... only if you put a TTT or AoZ appropriate spin to it. I think you had other plans if I'm not mistaken. You know though... A lot of those TTT suits use Alex parts. wink wink!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Doctor Seleski on August 26, 2005, 03:42:12 PM
I don't want to be a jerk and I know this is a friendly group build and all but...

How could a Z+, a version of the Zeta Gundam that was developed after the story that takes place in the anime, be a part of an Advance of Zeta build?  Since the Z is based on the combination of the Mk-II and Rick Dias, and is designed by Kamille Bidan, nothing in this build should be based on MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: gamerabaenre on August 26, 2005, 04:07:27 PM
Damnit all, there goes my idea to build a AOZ Sazabi... *sigh*   :razz:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Turbo-Squid on August 27, 2005, 07:54:30 AM
Quote
Everything you guys just said.

Aww junk...   I'll have to come up with a better angle... :shifty:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: fulcy on August 27, 2005, 08:02:07 AM
I have to agree with phil - we kinda have to stay within the AoZ timeline for this to be an AoZ group build...

On a side note, I didn't think Kamille had designed the Zeta - from the series, he was as surprised to see it show up as anyone else...
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: fulcy on August 27, 2005, 08:05:34 AM
Well then, you learn something new everyday.

Quote
In the hands of the young Newtype pilot Kamille Bidan, one of its principal designers, the Zeta Gundam proves to be the most powerful weapon in the rebels' arsenal.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 01, 2005, 08:39:31 AM
Thanks for the scans!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: zerobxu on September 02, 2005, 11:29:44 AM
Okay... I've FINALLY figured out how to scan images in decently. Go ahead and go here:
http://photobucket.com/albums/a340/zerobxu/AoZ_scans/

... because this is where I'll be posting any AoZ items I scan in from magazines. And since this is an "unlimited" AoZ build, I might add some other items (like "Titans Civil War" and "The Machinery of Titans") as room allows. Please just save the images to your local drive--that way I don't have to worry about bandwidth, and you don't have to worry about these scans disappearing (because they will).

And special thanks to Phil for both providing the magazines, as well as tutoring me in Photoshop so that I could scan them in without them looking completely awful.

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/zerobxu/th_titanstestteam.jpg) (http://photobucket.com/albums/a340/zerobxu/AoZ_scans/)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: gtetra on September 09, 2005, 02:43:27 PM
Thanks for sharing zero, especially for the Gaplant pic.  Does anyone have reference pictures of the Gaplant?

Thank you
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on September 15, 2005, 02:47:57 AM
Newcommer in AoZ: the Galbaldy β TTT.
Way better than the original.
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1814/11267751285811cz.th.jpg) (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11267751285811cz.jpg)
EDIT: and a pic of the snapped Hazel who's just out:
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8782/11267798505408hc.th.jpg) (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11267798505408hc.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: zerobxu on September 15, 2005, 05:01:39 AM
I'm liking that Galbaldy. A lot. It seems like a nice blend of the Galbaldy look with the Hazel components. Maybe someone would do this for the AoZ build if Bandai ever gets off their duff and answers the cries for an MG or HGUC Galbaldy...
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Doctor Seleski on September 15, 2005, 06:08:44 AM
Quote from: "zerobxu"
Maybe someone would do this for the AoZ build if Bandai ever gets off their duff and answers the cries for an MG or HGUC Galbaldy...

I know it is one I am waiting for.  I haven't been too excited about TTT as of late, but that design is tight.  Still, and I don't mean to be too anal retentive, I thought the Galbaldy β was an EF MS and not Titans (though Jerid pilots one) because it wasn't advanced enough.

Anyway, enough of my babbling.  Thanks for sharing those scans.  :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 15, 2005, 06:40:40 AM
*drool* Here's the Gaplant. Looks like it's MA Mode only.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/gaplant1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/gaplant2.jpg
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: gtetra on September 16, 2005, 02:58:26 PM
Thanks FF, the MA mode look nice but I don't think I have the resource to make it for the build.  I'll go for a more modest design.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bawoo on September 20, 2005, 09:29:11 AM
Anyone have more pics of that Galbaldy?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: wildrogue on September 20, 2005, 02:31:44 PM
Just a question, would the Gundam Mk II be able to be used in the build?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 20, 2005, 03:07:23 PM
Yeah, I wanna see more of that Galbaldy too. 8) I wasn't too keen on the design till I saw that.

wildrogue: I believe so. Better check with Phil. :D
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on September 20, 2005, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: "wildrogue"
Just a question, would the Gundam Mk II be able to be used in the build?

Sure, the Titans have a mkII unit after all. Plus there's one nice PG mkII in one of the books.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: zerobxu on September 20, 2005, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: "Ezechiel"
Quote from: "wildrogue"
Just a question, would the Gundam Mk II be able to be used in the build?

Sure, the Titans have a mkII unit after all. Plus there's one nice PG mkII in one of the books.


And... there's plenty of Mark-II prototype builds out there. Seems like those would be fair game. In fact, I've got one scanned somewhere... I'll see if I can find it tomorrow (or if FF still has that Gihren's Greed mook and beats me to it).
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Doctor Seleski on September 21, 2005, 08:29:21 AM
I guess it all depends on how far advance of Zeta you set your work and how canon you want it to be.  The Mk-IIs are being tested in the early part of the Zeta series and this group build is Advance of Zeta.

It is a Titans MS and even the Mk-IIs in the Zeta series could be considered TTT units (despite TTT not even being created 2 decades later and inserted in the UC timeline).  In fact, I believe there is a chart of the TTT units that was in a recent issue of DHM showing the Mk-II and even the Psycho.  I don't have the image(s), otherwise I would post them.

Have fun. :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on September 21, 2005, 11:40:55 AM
That?
(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/8058/11259022882998km.th.jpg) (http://img312.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11259022882998km.jpg)(http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/1268/11259024568727qz.th.jpg) (http://img312.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11259024568727qz.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Doctor Seleski on September 21, 2005, 12:13:42 PM
Yes!  Thanks. :)

Hmmm... I guess the Mk-IIs aren't on there. But the Psycho is?! Must be for scale? :?

I've merged the two images to one for a quick view...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/philgoodwin/aoz/tttchartth.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/philgoodwin/aoz/tttchart.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on September 23, 2005, 05:12:38 AM
Whats a good head to use if you were going to scratch build a hazels head?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: p-trax on September 23, 2005, 10:09:56 AM
Quote from: "Bawoo"
Anyone have more pics of that Galbaldy?


yep, i dug back back through old Dengeki's and found a small amount. I will try to remember to scan it later this weekend.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: p-trax on September 23, 2005, 11:16:50 AM
warning, LARGE pics

http://www.p-trax.com/galbaldy.htm
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 23, 2005, 12:39:55 PM
Awesome. I'm kinda hoping for an MG version of the Galbaldy to modify to this now.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: p-trax on September 25, 2005, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: "p-trax"
warning, LARGE pics

http://www.p-trax.com/galbaldy.htm


found another page, added to link above.

I will take these images down later this week.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on September 25, 2005, 11:00:15 AM
Saved!
Thanks a lot!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 26, 2005, 10:33:13 AM
I posted this in the Hazel thread. It should go here too as it's AoZ refs I scanned.

Quote
I just got my Hazel today and I must say that I'm impressed. The parts are nice and crisply molded and very detailed.

Interestingly enough, it came with a nice 36 page book separate from the instructions with sketches, a little manga and some time-line looking text all in Japanese. Below are a few scans I made from it. It's times like this I wish I could read them. Sad

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/HazelBook-FF-PgCover.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/HazelBook-FF-Pg02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/HazelBook-FF-Pg12-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/HazelBook-FF-Pg30.jpg
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on September 28, 2005, 09:01:12 AM
For those interested, I scanned some of the instructions and made this HGUC Hazel line art by combining different sections.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/HazelLineArt.gif)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: wildrogue on September 28, 2005, 10:57:01 AM
Quote from: "philgoodwin"

Hmmm... I guess the Mk-IIs aren't on there. But the Psycho is?! Must be for scale? :?


So can one build a Psycho, or is it really just for scale?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on September 28, 2005, 11:01:05 AM
Psyco Gundam IS a Titans unit. As MAHQ says: " At their Murasame Laboratory in Japan, the Titans built the Federation's first Newtype-use unit, the MRX-009 Psyco Gundam.". So I guess it's alright. I'd love to see a wip of a HGUC Psyco Gundam.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: maxwinamp on September 28, 2005, 02:51:47 PM
Thanks FichtenFoo for the Hazel lineart,
will definitely comes in handy :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on October 27, 2005, 11:10:42 AM
Well, since I've got a huge scan library, I'll post/share some AoZ stuff. This page has some archived AoZ stuff, like the PG hazel. http://photobucket.com/albums/v63/lingwendil/AofZ/ I'll post more scans to that page as time allows. Be gentle now! I hope these are helpful, The PG Hazel is simply awesome, some good minor details.



EDIT: Added the GM's.
EDIT: Added Zeon "stutzers", and more Hazel.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on October 27, 2005, 11:43:13 AM
Thanks for the pics Lingwendil
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on October 27, 2005, 11:46:03 AM
No problem. I just hope my bandwidth'll hold.  :D

By the way, If anyone needs a specific Dengeki scan, that isn't already covered, just ask and I'll see what I can do. I posted most of the relevent stuff on photobucket. PM me with the month and year if possible.


(Relevent? is that how it's spelled?)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: fugu on October 28, 2005, 12:48:46 PM
I think it's "Relevant".
And thanks for uploading them at photobucket. I'll be adding them to my pic collection once I get home. :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on October 28, 2005, 12:52:29 PM
Thanks for the images Lingwendil. Good stuff. I wasn't aware there was a PG Hazel.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on October 30, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
My bandwidth died! I'll try to get them up on imageshack. If anyone has requests just ask.


EDIT: I zipped all the images from photobucket, so if anyone wants them just PM me with your email address and I'll send them. The zip is 6.45 Mb.

EDIT: Well, Photobucket is back online and updated, and I'm in the process of getting them ALL up on imageshack. How do I make a viewable page of thumbnails public with imageshack? I can't figure it out.
Title: more images
Post by: ninjascience on November 07, 2005, 08:15:34 AM
I've been collecting images for awhile.  Here's my flickr AoZ album...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on November 08, 2005, 02:43:40 AM
Thanks a bunch, there's some stuff I had never seen (and some very nice non-aoz mecha too)!
EDIT: there are some pics I cannot save...
Title: can't get pics off of flickr
Post by: ninjascience on November 08, 2005, 09:21:26 AM
yes, flickr doesn't want to make it too easy to grab photos.  If you want to download pics, click on the pic, click on "All Sizes".  Click on the size you want and you should see a link that says "Download", I think right click and "Save As..." will also work from this screen.  If thats not working for you, let me know.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on November 08, 2005, 11:54:10 AM
Yeah, when I tryed to save them all I later looked back and each file consisted of one black pixel! If possible, just zip them. Much less problems that way.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 08, 2005, 12:25:39 PM
i'll be backing up my photos about once a week or so.  You'll be able to download them here:

http://www.numinalabs.com/flickrbackup.zip


EDIT:  this zip archive contains some bad images.  I will post again when I've found a working backup tool.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on November 08, 2005, 12:56:14 PM
Weird...same problem with the zip... :?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on November 08, 2005, 08:08:47 PM
The zip works fine for me.  Thanks for sharing the images!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 08, 2005, 10:15:14 PM
actually, you probably have a bunch of the bad images mixed in with the good images in there.  my flickr backup tool doesn't seem to working.  I'll post again when it is.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on November 17, 2005, 05:59:13 PM
Any line art for the High mobility hazel :?:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 18, 2005, 06:58:00 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/59015828/

Like this?

Note to all...

There's more new stuff in my flickr gallery: including some great images of the Icarus Unit and Icarus Unit Prototype.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on November 18, 2005, 09:10:04 AM
:oops:  I mean Advanced Hazel
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 18, 2005, 09:21:10 AM
ohhhhh, advanced hazel?

well it just so happens that I JUST finished scanning the lineart from Dengeki Hobby Magazine December 2005...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience

VERY cool stuff
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on November 18, 2005, 09:52:26 AM
You, sir, win many billions of free internet.
Thank you sooo much for these great scans. Too bad I can't save them but still, thanks!!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 18, 2005, 10:00:24 AM
yes, that is puzzling, it doesn't work for me either... srry 'bout that

well, the good news is, after I have time to prep images they will end up here...

*drumroll please*

The NEW super-fresh, hot, hot, hot...


Advance of Zeta Wiki!!!

I've been working on this with some of the guys over at the Titans Test Team Arc and we just unveiled it yesterday.  It's still pretty rough.

http://www.numinalabs.com/wiki

If you want to help out, join  the Arc!  All info is filtered through those forums before getting put up on the wiki.
http://s7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?act=idx
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on November 18, 2005, 01:02:22 PM
Any luck on making a working zip of all those?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 18, 2005, 02:35:23 PM
no luck yet
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: knightsljx on November 19, 2005, 04:27:20 AM
thanks ninjascience for the images. If its possible could you get a scan of the corner page with the blank advance HAzel lineart? As in a bigger resolution lineart for just the Adv Hazel. Thanks

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/64522155/
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 19, 2005, 10:44:33 AM
By early next week I should have all that line art, including zoomed in versions of the smaller images on those pages, cleaned up and added to the wiki.  Already, a lot of the art from my flickr gallery has gone through this process.  You can see all the wiki images here...


http://www.numinalabs.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Imagelist
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on November 19, 2005, 10:46:47 AM
Thanks ninja :!:  


Yea the Adv Hazel in corner would be great for making line art
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 01, 2005, 07:09:21 AM
Hi!

I've updated the decals scan from dengki hobby to 300dpi.

Those who are interested can find them here :

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/300.jpg

 8)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 01, 2005, 07:18:12 AM
Those look very cool... but... are they stickers? :shock: The green back denotes that they likely are. :(
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 01, 2005, 09:23:07 AM
Quote from: "FichtenFoo"
Those look very cool... but... are they stickers? :shock: The green back denotes that they likely are. :(


Yes they are stickers.

Major booboo on my part; photobucket resizes my image when it exceeds 512kb. My 300dpi scanned image is 1.9mb.

So that means the one you see using the link is not 300dpi but something less.

All apologies. 2 booboos in a day; must be a record for me  :oops:
Title: New Gallery
Post by: ninjascience on December 02, 2005, 12:06:52 PM
I got tired of people (myself included) not being able to download some images from my flickr gallery, so I switched to a nice new gallery on the aoz.numinalabs.com (AoZ Wiki) domain.

http://aoz.numinalabs.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=313

All the AoZ images from my flickr account are there.  But there's no organization yet.  The site has a nice cart feature that lets you create whatever set of images you want in your cart and download them as a zip.  Don't let the 'cart' label fool you, it's all free.  I will continue to add to this as I get more scans.

Also, the wiki has been updated with a lot of new cleaned up images and technical notes.  Especially for the Advanced Hazel and Galbaldy Beta.

http://aoz.numinalabs.com/index.php/Category:RX-121-2A_Gundam_TR-1_%22Advanced_Hazel%22
http://aoz.numinalabs.com/index.php/Category:RMS-117_Galbaldy_Beta_High_Mobility_Type
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on December 02, 2005, 12:38:35 PM
Thank you Thank You :!:  finally a good decent scan of a Adv Hazel.

The site sweet I like the tech pics

Very nice work ninja
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on December 02, 2005, 02:33:05 PM
Thanks again!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 03, 2005, 07:49:32 PM
Hello good people of the forum!

I've uploaded the latest scans from the Jan 2006 Dengki Hobby Advance of Z supplement "Modelling Material"

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74619696@N00/tags/aoz/

After spending more than an hour scanning, resizing and finally uploading the images to Flickr, I read that downloading the images can be a problem.....  :cry:

Anyway I just max out my flickr account upload.

Enjoy the scans. Cheers!  :P
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on December 03, 2005, 09:25:57 PM
sweet!  

you da man spriggan!  This answers a lot of pending questions we had over at the TTT Arc forums!  If you haven't already, please post this there as well!  See you there for the tech discussions!

EDIT:

I discovered a fix for the flickr picture download problem.  More of a work around actually.  I noticed the bad images where 0x0 pixels, but still had the right amount of kB, so I opened the pics in Firefox and resaved them.  That fixed them.  Not great but it works.  Flickr is great for organizing, but not so great for sharing with friends and family, but not so great for sharing stuff that people will download as long as this problem persists.  That's why I setup my own gallery.

EDIT AGAIN:  

It has also occured to me that problem with my photos may have been there BEFORE they were uploaded to flickr. *shrug*  If you don't get any reports of download problems Spriggan, I don't want to discourage you from using it.  It's a great service.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 04, 2005, 05:15:30 AM
Thanks for the compliments ninjascience!

Anyway I always believe in sharing resources; its your AoZ scans that got me interested in the series.

The door swings both ways  :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 08, 2005, 08:43:53 AM
Hi guys,

Some scans I did from Dec DKH mag regarding Fiver.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0018.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0019.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0022.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0023.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0024.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0025.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0026.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0027.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0028.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0029.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0030.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0031.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0032.jpg

Info regarding Hazel-Rah :razz:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0020.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0021.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0033.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0034.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0035.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c282/whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta/Scan0036.jpg

Cheers!

Thanks for the tip Fulcy!  :oops:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: fulcy on December 08, 2005, 09:07:39 AM
Weird - you've got to fix your links, they aren't working right - the 'whateverufear/Advance%20of%20Zeta' is truncated, and making the link not work
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Waverider on December 09, 2005, 05:33:06 AM
Thanks for the scans Sprigaan. Cheers!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on December 09, 2005, 09:42:53 AM
no problem.

ninjascience shared alot of scans with us too.  :wink:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mobile_G on December 19, 2005, 03:14:51 PM
Okay, so I dove in and joined GB2.  Before I start anything, can someone please let me know if I can use a Zaku II for the group build and paint it TTT colors?

Here's the one I have on hand:
http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/mszakiimasgr.html

I'm not up on the Gundam storyline, so I don't know if this kit would be grossly unacceptable or something  :lol: .  I just really liked the TTT color scheme when I first saw AofZ in Dengeki Hobby Magazine a few years back.  My other choice if I go with this style of model would be to buy a Hi-Zack, but I'm trying to get by on what I have on hand at the moment.  After all, Christmas is coming and I still need to buy presents.  :cry:

Otherwise, I guess I could hold out and wait for the 1/144 Advanced Hazel.  Thanks! :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on December 19, 2005, 03:56:12 PM
Well I guess it could be a captured Zaku used for test purpose... :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 19, 2005, 04:41:01 PM
You could always do a Zaku Stutzer depending on your scratch-building skills. :wink:

(http://fichtenfoo.com/images/prog-MGHazel/Reference-02.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mobile_G on December 20, 2005, 09:32:14 AM
FF, I haven't scratch-built anything yet in plastic.  I've had experience scratch-building things in wood (I've built scale dollhouses), but building in plastic is still something I'd have to research  :? .  Perhaps a trip to the local hobby shop would give me some ideas.  I don't know if that would be too much to try to do at this point in my modeling...infancy?  No, that's not right.  My modeling toddlerhood.  How's that for a concept?

I wish Ezechiel's idea was acceptable...then I can start building now!  :lol:   Yes...it's, um...a captured Zaku that we painted in TTT colors so you know that it's a good guy.  :P
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 20, 2005, 09:41:32 AM
I think that a captured Zaku would work. It fits into the timeline. I suggest doing some like mods/added details to it to make it look more "AoZ". That would be a good way to get your feet wet in making parts.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: fulcy on December 20, 2005, 09:42:57 AM
My suggestion - the best way to learn, is to actually go ahead and try it - so what if you screw up?  Every time you mess something up, is just a learning experience.  If you need some references, see if you can find this magazine:

http://www.hlj.com/product/MDW22248

Yes, it's in japanese, but the pictures are self explanatory, and can help out alot!  Now, pull out that exacto knife, and start cutting!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on December 20, 2005, 11:49:38 AM
What would be even easier... is if there were any scans from that magazine, easily zipped perhaps? I haver the Zaku kai scans, and a lot of other scratchbuilding articles if you would like, Mobile_G.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mobile_G on December 21, 2005, 08:39:41 AM
Lingwendil: I've been researching scratchbuilding articles, but for me, the more I have the better.  What do you have that you would recommend?  Please PM me so we won't have to bother everyone else :).  Thank you so much for the offer.  That's so nice of you.

fulcy: After your suggestion and all the articles that I've seen so far, I just might go out and get some plastic to see what happens!  It's on my hobby store shopping list now  :wink: .  By the way, I can't seem to find the SukuSuku Scratchbuilding Manual anywhere :(.  I have a few SukuSuku articles from my old magazines, but it would have been great to have the whole book.

FF: This is great - if I don't come up with the money for a Hi-Zack, I can try out your idea.  The way you put it ("get your feet wet") made it sound less intimidating.  :lol:

I spent quite a few hours last night pulling out the old Dengeki Hobby magazines that I have.  Luckily, I have the issue with the Hi-Zack in it  8) .  Of course, I was so excited that I had to keep bothering my boyfriend every few minutes just to show him what I wanted to build.  Now he's asking me all sorts of questions about AofZ (most of which I can't answer yet).  :oops:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on December 21, 2005, 08:53:29 AM
Mobile G: If your you or your BF is into AoZ in general, point him to the TTT Forums:

http://s7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?act=idx

and the wiki"

http://aoz.numinalabs.com

New scans of the Zaku II Stuzter unit here if you're interested:
http://aoz.numinalabs.com/index.php/Special:Newimages

right now they are at the top of list, but I may be adding new images in the next couple of days and they will get bumped down.

Everybody:
I got my hands on Vol. 2 and 3 of the art books.  Vols 2 scans here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience

If you want to download them, wait a bit and I will add them to my personal gallery that lets you download zips.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on December 22, 2005, 03:25:09 AM
Ok even for me that's too much...that's just not nice:
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2426/26yy.th.jpg) (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26yy.jpg)
This artwork is fine, though a bit overkill:
(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5920/11ct3.th.jpg) (http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11ct3.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 22, 2005, 05:40:49 AM
Wow... THAT is excessive! Not necessarily in a bad way, but definitely ecessive.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on December 22, 2005, 06:56:04 AM
it's even official! hahahaha

Is this from the Feb issue of DHM?

EDIT: yes, they are.

 more...

http://manga.zeonic-republic.net/advance_of_zeta/101107.jpg
http://manga.zeonic-republic.net/advance_of_zeta/101108.jpg

second one shows the Hrududu and the Hazel-Rah both using the Gaplant Booster.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 29, 2005, 01:17:09 PM
My TTT Decal leftovers for sale!

http://fichtenfoo.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=6730#6730

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v36/fichtenfoo/TTTDecals.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: dandaman61 on December 30, 2005, 10:49:43 AM
moved

Hi everyone I’ve been browsing this forum for quite a while and have to say its probably the best English based modeling community out there. I’m looking to get involved with the AoZ group build. I’ve got a hazel custom (waiting for hazel-rah parts), a 2nd hazel custom (which I plan to paint in original hazel colors) and a tiny 1/200 Hazel II. Ive been trying to mix up some paint and have a couple of questions for you guys about the colors.


What are you mixing, (colors, brands, ratios) to make the dark grey and light grey seen on Hazel and Hazel II?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: stephen on December 31, 2005, 05:03:10 AM
Hi FichenFoo, only one question. I've requested to enter the group and I've decided to make an MS-14 Gelgoog Stutzer in 1/144, the question is "Have I to use test colors like red or I can use the same colors on the book (gray/green) ?

Here is the image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/Ezechiel/AoZ%20U%20Scans/16.jpg
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on December 31, 2005, 06:11:32 AM
Stephen: You can use whatever colors you like. It's AoZ Unlimited. As long as it fits into the AoZ timeline, it's all good.

dandaman: I used a mixture of Tamiya Medium Blue, Blue, Purple, Sky Blue and Field Blue for my Hazel colors. It's a lot, but only because I was running out of several of the colors and needed to improvise others to get what I wanted. I think mixing field blue with blue would yeild a similar result. A touch or purple helps too.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on December 31, 2005, 12:27:15 PM
Shame on me for not getting into this forum earlier... but its like I've already been here!
 
Things I would've pointed out ninjascience has already done for me!  Glad you're all enjoying the scans and such.

Don't forget, theres also chapter summaries that are translated and some translated manga on the TTT Arc as well.  Those can really come in handy if you're trying to figure out how to fit your AoZ entry into the contest.  I know its been helping me!

I've been working on TWO major projects for AoZ.  One for a model compettition at our TTT Arc and my big project involving the Hazel, some G-Parts, and the 0083 monster, Dendrobium Orchis.  

As far as parts go and ideas for the contest, yes, alot of the Titans early MS are based off the Alex.  Heck, even the GM Custom has direct links to the Alex's development.  I'm amazed how long that 0080 War in the Pocket design lasts through Gundam!  We see it reflecetd heavily in Katoki's redesigns of OWY mobile suits like the Gundam Ver Ka and his redesigns of the GM.  These designs carry over into 0083 which in turn carries over to AoZ designs.  One thing I especially like about the AoZ storyline is how it starts before Zeta and ends after it.  It includes battes we didn't see with these Alex-inspired MS still operating.  If theres one thing I love, its a long-lasting design.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Sprigaan on January 05, 2006, 03:43:19 AM
Here a link to a japanese website with HGUC Hazel-Rah :

http://www.geocities.jp/tastemojya/hobby060104.htm
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Waverider on January 05, 2006, 05:14:48 AM
Hi everyone,

Here is what the hazel custom looks like with 2 HRUDUDU

(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2940/hrududu5310tv.th.jpg) (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrududu5310tv.jpg)

Want to see a hazel with 4 HRUDUDU? Here goes,

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8391/028bi3wk.th.jpg) (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=028bi3wk.jpg)

Will it still be known as the Hazel-Rah after being so...top heavy?

Honestly, I am torn when it comes to this latest supplement with Feb issue of Dengei Hobby. I will definitely get a copy myself, the Taiwan version. Howeer, those buggers design it in such a way that it will look best with 2 HRUDUDU units attached. The look reminds me of deepstriker somehow... maybe I will try to look for another HRUDUDU
 through yahoo auction, which I saw somebody trying to sell it off for SGD $18.

Getting another copy will be kind of a waste of money, as for the look with 4 HRUDUDU? I will pass.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: yuichiro on January 05, 2006, 11:39:54 PM
can new members join the group build?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on January 06, 2006, 06:01:11 AM
Quote from: "yuichiro"
can new members join the group build?
Yes.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on January 13, 2006, 05:09:12 AM
Wow just look at that Zaku Stutzer!!
http://www.zlpla.co.kr/zeroboard/view.php?id=workshop&no=484
Impressive to say the least.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: stephen on January 13, 2006, 05:18:18 AM
Great modding !  :shock:

I like the overall look.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 13, 2006, 09:09:33 AM
nice!

yeah, that whole collective is very good.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: stephen on January 16, 2006, 02:21:52 AM
To all people interested to the original AOZ books, HLJ has the fourth 4 in relese and preorder..... (I've already done :P  )

http://www.hlj.com/product/MDW23357
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 17, 2006, 03:52:16 PM
I just got mine pre-ordered as well.  I've been watching HLJ, Amazon Japan and the MediaWorks website for this to pop up for ordering for a while, but I missed it coming out on HLJ, thanks for the heads up!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on January 19, 2006, 06:59:09 AM
Just a general question.  Does AEUG have any prototypes in the AoZ timeline?  Does the organization even exist at the time?  I remember reading somewhere that the pilot of the Galbaldy beta defect to AEUG...but I'm not sure

I just think the Advance Hazel and other test suits need some more advanced enemies than Zaku's Dom's and Gelgoog's
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 19, 2006, 07:26:37 AM
It does,  check out the AoZ timeline at http://www.ultimatemark.com/gundam/timeline.php?series=52.  I have a feeling that AoZ is winding down, but I hope that they will move on and do a series of prototype AEUG suits after they are done with the Titans.  That would be VERY cool.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on January 19, 2006, 09:20:48 AM
Yeah... if they continue any more sweet additions for the Hazel, my dendrobium project ideas will never stop!  Theres just too much I can do to it now!  

I really think that the model combination of the Hazel Custom, two g-packs, and the gaplant booster is genious designing as well as marketing.  

Anyone have any better pictures of those Hazel shoulders that lock with the G-pack rifles?  I think ninjascience posted a picture of those here not too long ago, but it was just lineart.  I haven't seen anything of it since.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 19, 2006, 09:28:35 AM
That pic is in the Feb DHM.  Deacon from TTT Arc scaned the whole page for me, but I didn't want to impose and ask him to do high-def scans of the linart details too.  I'll be getting my own copy next week and posting nice high-def scans then.  Until then you'll have to settle with http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/82264129/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/82264207/.  In that first link, under the detail of that shoulder, you can also see how the heat blade pops out of the Long Blade Rifle for a sweet bayonet like mode.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on January 22, 2006, 09:21:54 PM
I found this and wonder would this be acceptable.

Titans RX-78-2 from Gihren's Greed
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on January 25, 2006, 08:01:34 AM
A question for the AoZ experts here:

What are the differences between the original "Hazel" and "Advanced Hazel" aside from the these ones I spotted?  

- new head sensor
- new shield booster (HGUC version) and rear mount
- new feet/heel unit
- new front skirt & sub arm unit
- new block in front of cockpit area
- new paint scheme of course

I might have missed some of the subtler points.  Thanks for your insight!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 25, 2006, 08:16:13 AM
The Advanced Hazel is basically the same as the Hazel Custom, plus a few extras.  

The Hazel Custom was meant to be a more complete build of the original Hazel.  While the features that made the Hazel what it was were just sort of 'add-ons' to a GM Quel, the Hazel Custom was a more complete and integrated build of the same basic features, while also making improvments based on combat data from the orginal Hazel.  From your list it had these features:

- new front skirt & sub arm unit
- new block in front of cockpit area

The sub-arm unit actually attaches to a multipurpose latch that allows a variety of equipment to be mounted there.  Most commonly we see the sub-arm unit, but a beam-rifle holder can also be attached.  It also serves to help attach the G-Parts to make the Hazel-Rah or the Icarus Unit.

The Advanced Hazel is the same machine that was the Hazel II, but upgraded to match the specs of the Hazel Custom, plus a few extras.

- new head sensor
- new shield booster (HGUC version) and rear mount
- new feet/heel unit

At the time of it's development it was considered the final phase of design.  The core MS doesn't change after that, except for adding more option parts (Hazel-Rah).  The next step in the evolution of the Hazel series was a mass production design that has a slightly different chest and shoulders (pictured in Feb. DHM).

There's more information on the Hazel Series at the wiki of course ;-)

A list of all the designs in this series (minus the Mass Production type) can be found here (http://aoz.numinalabs.com/index.php?title=Category:Gundam_TR-1_Series)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on January 25, 2006, 09:09:25 AM
Thanks ninjascience to your explainations, you're always so helpful.

Yeah I checked the Wiki before I posted and those are some of my observations.  I was never really too hot about the Hazel when it first came out, but the Advanced Hazel has struck a soft spot in my heart.  :oops:  :lol:

Thanks again!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on January 30, 2006, 02:29:11 AM
AoZ vol.4 seems to be out:
(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4831/11386082734305xi.th.jpg) (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11386082734305xi.jpg)
I ordered it yesterday on R10 (plus some tools and a HGUC Dom Tropen Sand Brown :) ). I chose EMS so it shouldn't be too long...can't wait :D
Also saw that on 2chan, might be useful for Waverider and his Gaplant:
(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1223/11386114059090by.th.jpg) (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11386114059090by.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 30, 2006, 07:01:45 AM
nice!  That is the Fiver with the side binders pivoted downwards.  Very cool!  Once again you've found some great brand new images!

Thanks!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on January 30, 2006, 01:08:54 PM
Hey E what is the name of the zeta looking mobile suit behind the hazel?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 30, 2006, 01:13:35 PM
i'm 99% sure that is the TTT Gaplant.  It's head has been Hazel-fied.  It has the 'sensor-mowhack' and the tradtional gundam prongs.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on January 30, 2006, 01:26:55 PM
O ok thanks for clearing that up ninja, because  everytime I see the  TTT gaplant I can never see its face.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 30, 2006, 01:45:23 PM
yeah, that cover is the best I've seen so far, and even that one is not totally clear.

http://ninjascience.blogspot.com

I blogged about that cover a little while ago but thought it was something else first.  Then a friend was like 'no way, that's a Gaplant!'  After taking another look I agreeed.  Even this brand new pic that Ezekiel posted today has the face mostly in shadow.  All you can really see is the light from the 'mohawk sensor'
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on January 30, 2006, 02:05:16 PM
Hey another slew of questions for the experts:

From the prototype development scans from ninjascience's blog (which is very interesting btw), seems like the Advanced Hazel should have a more beefed up chest and shoulder armour, and carrying the Mk-II shield...So did the HGUC kit took the short cut of reusing mold and in effect "cheated"?

Also, the cores of the MS's featured in the development chart is in either tan or light blue...seems to me that it implies parts carried over from the previous design(s)...But I'm kinda confused of what it really means.  That chart is somewhat confusing to me, part of the reason being so pretty... :lol:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 30, 2006, 02:13:46 PM
The Advanced Hazel on that chart (#11) is incorrect.  Over at the TTT forums we all agree that's a typo, they accidentally reused the graphic for #13 (Mass-Productive Prototype).  Notice the lines lead off to the left to 'TR-6'.  That's a mystery MS we haven't seen yet.  The TR-6 designation seems to indicate it will be a new core MS (everything on this chart is still basically a GM Quel underneath all the extras).  Mark Simmons, who translated some little tiny text found elsewhere in that DHM, found some notes about the TR-6 including a new version of the G-Parts that can dock with the MS without having to be inside a hangar (a limitation of the current Hazel-Rah, the G-Parts must be attached in a hangar, they cannot dock/un-dock by themselves out in space).  So our current theory is that the TR-6 is a new core MS, with a new G-Parts system.

I wouldn't read too much into what the colors mean on that chart.  I haven't been able to make sense of what they are trying to indicate there, my current best guess is it just serves to highlight which parts are new to that development stage (the white parts), but it doesn't always seem that way.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on January 30, 2006, 03:48:15 PM
Thanks for the clarification.  If #13, the mass produced type, looks like that with the new chest and shoulder I think it's even hotter than the Adv. Hazel.  Now I'm excited to see this new TR-6.  Any guesses so far?  Maybe it would feature the super gundam concept...but that seems to be too Rah-ish.  

Yeah I tried to picture the white parts as the new addition to each stage, and it doesn't quite work out too.  I'll simply ignore the colors.  

Thanks again!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 30, 2006, 03:54:54 PM
I like the look of #13 too.  Those shoulders can mount the Long Blade Rifle of the Hazel-Rah, imagine two long blade rifles, one mounted to each shoulder >:-)  wicked!

Besides what I've already said about the TR-6, we are guessing that is uses concepts from #13, which in turn is based on the Hazel Custom.  It could be that the TR-6 is the result of all the ideas and combat data from the entire Hazel Series compiled into one brand new MS.  Another theory thrown around the TTT Forum is that it's a psycho gundam prototype.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on January 31, 2006, 06:07:11 AM
Again I just make the link between you and 2chan, the TTT Gaplant:
(http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/364/11387064225025cm.th.jpg) (http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11387064225025cm.jpg)
Sweet but I hope there are also some new Zeon prototypes in the volume 4.
I can't remember if those volumes have some exclusive content or if they're only compilations of what you can already find in DH.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 31, 2006, 06:59:56 AM
Are you sure these are from Vol. 4?  Could they be from March DHM?  The image of the cover you posted was a pic of the cover on a page, making me think it might be an ad from DHM.  Also, last month's DHM said the next photonovel episode was titled "Fiver", which are the next two pics you posted.

Either way... THANK YOU!

this is a sweet shot, gives us a little better view of the Fiver in MS mode.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on January 31, 2006, 07:18:03 AM
That is sweet. I hope that becomes at least an HGUC kit.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on January 31, 2006, 08:34:13 AM
makes sense financially, since they already have an HGUC Gaplant.  It just needs a new head and all the Fiver parts.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on January 31, 2006, 08:53:13 AM
I don't know where it's from. Just saw it on 2ch.
I'd love a HGUC TTT Gaplant since I've always wanted a Gaplant but R10 didn't have any in stock when I made my order for the vol. 4 (well a Dom Tropen is fine too :D ).
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Waverider on January 31, 2006, 08:34:15 PM
Hey Ezechiel thanks for the latest informations and photos! They are of great help. It's Chinese new year period now and I busy with almost everything else but my TTT Gaplant which makes me kinda sad  :cry: Time to work on it now :)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Garylok on February 02, 2006, 11:57:17 PM
Sorry im new to FFF and also new to the GB we have here but i find it very interesting and since i still have a few months to go till the next deadline, i was hoping that i could participate in this GB2. My only problems is understanding what "Advance of Zeta" means. Ive only watched 8thMS and Gundam Seed/Destiny so i might be missing some screws.

Can anyone fill me in please? To make it easier, can i use any MG GM's or Goufs/Zakus? Sorry i didnt mean for anyone to hold my hand through this type of thing but yeh.. Thanks in advance *prays he doesnt get banned for asking noob question*
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on February 03, 2006, 06:39:16 AM
Not exactly a "n00b" question my my definitions, but its certainly something you could've found on your own.

In any case, Advance of Zeta is based in a time period before Stardust Memory 0083 and Zeta Gundam.  You're missing quite alot of general information just by not seeing either of those series, as the Advance of Zeta story fits in-between them and "bridges the gap" for those two series.  Theres plenty more story information I could go on and on about, but I'd be here for awhile.

In regards to your "Can I use a GM, Gouf, or Zaku" question is simple to answer though.  Firstly, you might like to take a look at the AoZ Wiki> http://aoz.numinalabs.com/index.php/Main_Page

Theres plenty of information there.  Go the Category "Mechanics" under the Titans Test Team.  There you'll find an alphabetized list of Mobile Suit images and profiles.

Really, the Advance of Zeta story focuses on the military group "Titans", a faction of the EFF (which you should be familiar with from 08th MS Team) who's purpose is to clean up Zeon Remnaints from the OYW, so technically you could use that Gouf and that Zaku as Zeon Remnaints forces.  The Titans Mobile Suits, as you'll quickly find out from looking at the Wiki, are designed off of Base models like the GM and the GM Quel, as well as lots of prototype transformable Mobile Suits that can be found in Zeta Gundam.

Your knowledge of 08th MS Team can help a little bit as far as Zeonic designs go, but the SEED information is useless here, as its all in a different timeline/century.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on February 03, 2006, 06:40:01 AM
Advance of Zeta is a side story that takes place before Zeta gundam (so after 8th MS team series you are familiar with).  The story and MS designs are serialized in Dengeki Hobby Magazine out of Japan.  I maintain a wiki that has all the info you could ever want on AoZ, the link is in my signature.  

I'm a big fan so I don't mind answering any noob questions!  I love to talk about AoZ!  Check out the wiki and if you have any other questions I'm sure we can answer them here :-)

EDIT: looks like Bazookafied and I posted at the same time.  Looks like he had a typo too, AoZ takes place BETWEEN Stardust Memory and Zeta.  Also, I'm not really an authority on what is allowed in the Group Build, but they have seemed pretty open in the past, as long as it was plausible, you could be creative.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Garylok on February 03, 2006, 07:20:46 AM
Thanks for the help guys, i did try to do some google on AOZ but it came up with a pictures of the AOZ mobile suits and they were HGUC 1/144. Personally i prefer 1/100 MG, and im not very familiar with my Gunpla. Its true that if i spent more time researching on what AOZ was, sorry about that, i guess i rushed into things as i am so excited about doing a new project right after i graduate from college in a month and a bit!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on February 03, 2006, 07:51:56 AM
Just received the AoZ 4, unfortunately no new content at all but it's still great to have all the artworks and way cheaper than to buy DH. Gorgeous cover btw.
I had no idea the Fiver could bring two units with it...
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on February 03, 2006, 10:06:06 AM
nice!  Any more pics in there of the Fiver in MS mode?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on February 03, 2006, 11:19:22 AM
None, only the artwork you saw. You also see it in MA mode in the fiver...well parts of it. The head is cool, like the original but with a V-fin.
the Galbady is nice too.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on February 03, 2006, 11:22:29 AM
HLJ will be shipping my copy soon, I think it has a few things from DHM that I haven't seen yet like the Official Art Book from the October issue or the Arsenal Report from the September issue.  Is all that artwork in there?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on February 03, 2006, 12:27:30 PM
I guess... not sure what's the Arsenal Report.
EDIT: a nice Zaku Surtzer http://www.zlpla.co.kr/zeroboard/view.php?id=gallery&no=495 I think I posted the wip.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on February 03, 2006, 09:02:00 PM
Yeah, Ezechiel thanks for posting both the WIP and the finished Zaku Stutzer.

That's really really really sweet.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Waverider on February 04, 2006, 05:07:43 PM
Well if this tickles anyone's fancy, this is the link to a 1/60 Hazel custom paper model

http://www.tamasoft.co.jp/pepakura-en/gallery/gallerydetails.php?id=56#NO

30cm tall. Its kinda kinky if you ask me but just for the benefit of those who might find it interesting :lol:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on February 05, 2006, 03:42:01 PM
Wait, how do you print that? PDO file?

That's a siilly hazel, I want it!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on February 06, 2006, 07:53:34 AM
Hey I just ordered my copy of AoZ vol.4 (this is my first book) are there any pitures of the Icarus Unit in here or are they in Vol.1-3
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on March 22, 2006, 01:59:57 AM
AoZU is a bit quiet since GB3 started so here's another AoZ kit from zpla:
http://www.zlpla.co.kr/zeroboard/view.php?id=gallery&no=588
The shoulder mod is a bit too big but otherwise it looks just fantastic!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Asmodeous on March 22, 2006, 07:06:18 PM
That looks hella cool.  I wonder about the additional forearms on the back and have no idea what they are for but it looks cool.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on March 22, 2006, 07:14:42 PM
Nice Stutzer Goog! THose extra arms are discussed somewhere in this thread I believe. They're very cool actually!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: eien on March 28, 2006, 12:30:16 AM
Hey, been noticing about this GB and finally decided to join. noticing how Hazel can be converted into a whole bunch of different ways, I have been thinking... is there a newtype unit for Hazel? If not, I want to try customizing that. Btw I just joined and awaiting the activation. Also... I don't recall but is there a tree that shows every conversion for Hazel? Either that, or I'm out of my mind :shock:  :shock:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on March 28, 2006, 12:58:43 PM
(http://static.flickr.com/37/115577761_15b19f7604_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/115577761/)
(http://static.flickr.com/48/115577775_ce030d2db4_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/115577775)

This chart (should be viewed side by side) shows the evolution of the Hazel.

There's no newtype Hazel as of now.  There are some theories that the TR-6 box on the far left of the first pic, which currently is an unknown MS (Hazel is TR-1), is a newtype piloted MS, especially given the fact that with all the extra stuff they keep adding to the Hazel, a non-newtype would have trouble using all the equipment.

I'd love to see your take on Newtype piloted Hazel ;-)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: eien on March 28, 2006, 04:48:56 PM
sweet, then I'm going for Newtype / High mobility type conversion :) Well... It's nothing big, most likely just changing the backpack... I've finished designing the pack, and what made me realize is it seems kinda like SEED with the packs and stuff... but then again, Hazel has been having a lot of conversions :D
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on April 04, 2006, 11:16:16 AM
Sexy and overkill
(http://img305.imageshack.us/img305/2037/11441580064153kn.th.jpg) (http://img305.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11441580064153kn.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on April 04, 2006, 11:56:14 AM
I posted this elsewhere: I love it. Sure it's got big crap hanging off of it, but that's the charm. Being a modeler, I'd kill for an MG of this as it would lend itself to some slick finished works. Sure it'd take up a lot of shelf-space, but that'd be worth it. Even an HGUC would rock considering the size and the quality of the HGUC Hazel. Reminds me also of the Neue Ziel.

I really want a kit of this. :lol:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on April 04, 2006, 11:58:11 AM
Finally gotta see the MS form of fiver, looks really good.

That monoeye in the front pod looks a little like Humbarbi too!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on April 04, 2006, 01:32:16 PM
ohhhh, very cool.

now imagine that with the big grappling arms deployed.  wicked.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on April 05, 2006, 06:23:12 AM
MOAR!

(http://static.flickr.com/35/123732424_4a9c849d56_m.jpg) (http://flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/123732424/)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Lingwendil on April 05, 2006, 10:41:41 AM
WTF IS THAT!? The TR 6 perhaps?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on April 05, 2006, 01:24:59 PM
As ninjascience pointed out on the TTT Arc, it reads "RX-272" above that gaplant-esque Mobile Suit.  The only RX-242 that exists was from "Project Z", some Model Graphiix series of some sort.   http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/projectz/rx-272.htm

I doubt it'd be the TR-6 though, since I have yet to see a TR unit give birth to another TR.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on April 05, 2006, 05:23:25 PM
Awwww...that mobile suit is so ________ ....words can not explain!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ashinomori on April 06, 2006, 12:46:13 AM
i think that mecha goes along with the fiver...right?? doubt it a tr-6...

it does look like a mk III hapley...but too i doubt it's the same mecha..
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Paradogmatic on April 06, 2006, 04:25:08 AM
Well if you look further up and left you can see that it's still marked TR-5 above that RX indication -- so that's a closeup of the Fiver's modified Gaplant core with the 'wings / binders' removed for visibility I'd wager. It has the same mono-eye jock-strap that the full view has as well ;)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on April 06, 2006, 08:15:53 AM
The MS in the bottom left corner is not the Gaplant sans-Fiver equipment.  It's the RX-272 Gundam Mk. III
theories from TTTArc and 4chan along with the original RX-272 lineart (see below) point to the Fiver being a bridge in the design evolution from the Gaplant to the RX-272.

(http://static.flickr.com/38/124207685_31e7886897_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/124207685/)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on April 06, 2006, 09:21:49 AM
Yeah I do have that book, and the fiver head design when I first saw it did remind me of something, but I wasn't sure what at the time.  Now that you pointed it out I totally see it.

But to be honest, I think the RX-272 is pretty damn ugly.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Paradogmatic on April 06, 2006, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: "ninjascience"
The MS in the bottom left corner is not the Gaplant sans-Fiver equipment.  It's the RX-272 Gundam Mk. III
theories from TTTArc and 4chan along with the original RX-272 lineart (see below) point to the Fiver being a bridge in the design evolution from the Gaplant to the RX-272.


Ah yes .. I see now -- sorry -- was late when I was posting and somehow I thought the two in the original pic were in fact the same suit --- shame on me :).

Well -- unfortunately as most of the AoZ material goes, the supposed predecessor looks meaner and better than what it supposedly inspired. The Fiver is a beauty -- and one can dream that some enterprising garage kitter will come up with a conversion for the 1/144 HG Gaplant. I would but its WELL beyond my ability ;)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on April 12, 2006, 06:41:22 AM
new details on the Fiver.  Launching Hands ( a la Stutzers), a mini-missile launcher version of the Shield Booster, and more details about how the Fiver is armed.

(http://static.flickr.com/48/127465715_dbe18976b4_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/127465715/)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on April 18, 2006, 05:16:44 PM
I really like the missile system they put over the existing shield... that'd be a neat scratchbuild.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on April 26, 2006, 02:53:28 AM
New scans of the Rosette I just find out on 2chan:
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/872/rosette6gk.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rosette6gk.jpg)(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7755/rosette27ic.th.jpg) (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rosette27ic.jpg)
I TOTALLY dig it, but hey, I'm an AoZ whore :lol:
The chest looks like the Xeku's. Make me want to make another Marasai (and not friggin screw it this time).
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on April 26, 2006, 06:46:47 AM
Theres already some discussion about that at the TTT Arc if you want to figure more out about it.  http://s7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?showtopic=696

This Rosette is becoming less and less like the Marasai everyone thought it was.  I suppose it makes sense since at this point in the war, the Marasai is already produced.  To continue to test something thats already developed would be a waste of time.  Still, the Rosette is a great testbed MS, as its got a very solid design and construction.  Probably why they're still using it even after the testing was done with the Dandelion.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on May 08, 2006, 07:43:25 AM
http://takayo4.nce.buttobi.net/gunpla/hguc/hazel/hazelpage.htm
A very cool Hazel custom, fantastic paintjob and mods. Very inspiring. (direct link does not work, you know what to do).
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on May 08, 2006, 08:10:22 AM
ohhh, very nice!

I like it better than this recent find:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/gasdam/aepyornis.html
Title: RX-107 "Rosette" Enhanced Land Battle Form
Post by: ninjascience on May 25, 2006, 06:24:45 AM
(http://static.flickr.com/67/153056996_e0c40f6230_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/153056996/)

The Gunpla version of this we've already seen is apparently the prototype of this guy.

Mark Simmons' Translation:
RX-107 "Rosette" Enhanced Land Battle Form
The enhanced land battle form of the RX-107 "Rosette" is a ground combat form of the RX-107 used when the Murphy Team assaults Karaba's Kamchatka base. This form is equipped with option parts so that the RX-107 can perform high-speed combat on the ground, and is capable of high-speed hovering movement. The optional hovering skirt unit contains powerful thermonuclear jet engines whose thrust enables the machine to float. Unlike thermonuclear rockets that generate thrust by consuming propellant, these thermonuclear jets use the atmosphere as (fuel? propellant? the term is illegible here), and thus have the merit of reducing propellant consumption and extending the mission operating time.

Note: This is presumably the main difference betwene this version and the rejected prototype plan seen in the previous issue, which carried huge propellant tanks to fuel its thrusters and nonetheless had a relatively short operating time.

The captions on the smaller sketches are pretty much illegible, although I note that the image on the upper right shows a planned Minovsky craft version of the hovering skirt unit, which was abandoned because the system couldn't be made small enough. I also note that this version is still armed with an Asshimar beam rifle, and its chest is protected by the same kind of armor unit previously tested on the Hizack Cannon.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on May 25, 2006, 06:47:02 AM
Wow, I have to say that it looks...dreadfully bad.
The color scheme is terrible, it may look better with another. Any pics of a scratchbuilt kit of it?
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on May 25, 2006, 07:08:41 AM
Ewwwww...Phat Arse  :pinch:

This is ugly, I prefer this version (http://flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/135379030/).
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on May 25, 2006, 07:13:46 AM
That's awful. :P
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: zerobxu on May 25, 2006, 08:16:20 PM
It's so awful I think I love it. Uglier than a malformed dwarf. Squat and fat, like my administrative assistant at work (but she's not as heavily armed). Yes, it is beautiful in its horridness.  :lol:
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on May 26, 2006, 01:50:44 AM
Something a bit less...orange :razz:
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/870/11486247337704zt.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11486247337704zt.jpg)
There so few new parts for Bandai to make (only the head I guess) that I would be surprise we don't see a kit of that comming out some day. Well, I've seen worst recast :lol:
Small pics of the model: http://www.hlj.com/product/MDWMAG0607
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on May 27, 2006, 06:19:33 AM
I knew from when I first saw the Hazel's Shield Boosters that they had some sort of link to the Fiver.  Even though the Hazel's design and the Gaplant are separate, I knew that the design concept would find its way between the two.  

I'd like to see the Fiver Gaplant in its normal MS Mode sometime.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Major Blah on May 27, 2006, 08:43:46 PM
Yeah this version of Gaplant makes perfect sense, it's the missing link between the fiver and the Z-era gaplant.

I sort of like the boosters mounted horizontal (like the later version) though.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on May 28, 2006, 04:35:11 AM
Quote from: "Major Blah"
Yeah this version of Gaplant makes perfect sense, it's the missing link between the fiver and the Z-era gaplant.

I sort of like the boosters mounted horizontal (like the later version) though.


Technically this IS the "Zeta-era" Gaplant.  The Gaplants used by the TTT were already developed at the Oakland base. These Gaplants are merely testing the new equipment of the Fiver parts.
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on July 30, 2006, 04:11:45 PM
I know the GB is over but this looks too good (IMO) not to be shared:
http://members6.tsukaeru.net/yubaba/144squid.html
That's what I love about Hazel, so much room for customization!
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on December 21, 2006, 04:49:50 AM
Keeping this thread aliiiiiiive!
A cool though not so subtle way for Bandai to get rid of its stock of HGUC Psycho:
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2938/1166701064428na1.th.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1166701064428na1.jpg)
Title: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: zerobxu on December 21, 2006, 05:50:10 AM
Quote from: "Ezechiel"
Keeping this thread aliiiiiiive!
A cool though not so subtle way for Bandai to get rid of its stock of HGUC Psycho

I like it! The Fiver/Gaplant variant looks pretty slick as well. I wonder if you couldn't use the HGUC Zeong arms to pull something like this off...

**wanders off to Dalong.net for a size comparison check**
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on April 24, 2007, 09:33:23 AM
It's funny and awesome at the same time. I want an MG of it. More info please!

(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6840/1177392470436xj5.th.jpg) (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1177392470436xj5.jpg)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on April 24, 2007, 09:44:58 AM
Yeah, love it too. It's pretty far from any known Gundam. Would probably look good in Titans Blue scheme. The Tr6 in MA is pretty cool too.
I also hope to see a kit of it!
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on April 26, 2007, 09:27:11 AM
Oh the coolness...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/
Thanks to Ninjascience as usual for putting them together.
AoZ is finally making the link with the Messala and it looks great!
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on July 16, 2007, 06:52:24 AM
Hey guys!  Its been awhile, but I'm checking in with more AoZ info for you!

Right now AoZ is coming to an end.  I'm afraid that some of these newer lineart designs may never even get into the photonovel!  As usual, our favorite ninja of science has detailed information over at MechaScientific (http://www.mechascientific.com/aoz).  The TR-6 stuff keeps coming in Lineart format, but we have hardly begun to see them in the series.  In the most recent installment (Episode 6.0) you can see the newest form of the TR-6 (theres plenty of them on paper, but only 2 variants have appeared)

The TTT Arc (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?) has discussions up on these as usual.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on July 16, 2007, 09:27:06 AM
I actually want to know more of the Meaningless War 0091 is it fan fiction or was it from bandai? I really dig the design especially about the  MSN-4 Chanel and Mk.IV Siren

sorry that I went off topic.

I hope that one day bandai will truly realize the potential AoZ would have if they put it in anime form. Or they could have made Unicorn into an anime its like bandai is afraid of the UC era and those who like it have to go underground.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: clee-cm on July 16, 2007, 09:33:41 PM
I actually want to know more of the Meaningless War 0091 is it fan fiction or was it from bandai? I really dig the design especially about the  MSN-4 Chanel and Mk.IV Siren

sorry that I went off topic.

I hope that one day bandai will truly realize the potential AoZ would have if they put it in anime form. Or they could have made Unicorn into an anime its like bandai is afraid of the UC era and those who like it have to go underground.

From what I understand, the Meaningless War is a series of 3 books released in Japan, yes it is Gundam, and it has a number of Mobile Suites that can trace their origins to the various Gundam series in Anime and in Print. Like the book The Revival of Zeon(Zion) 0092, it takes place before Char's Counterattack.

From what I have read at gears online, the Meaningless War has a tie in of sort to AOZ. I found a short article on Gears online that explains the base plot of the Meaningless War.

I would also love to see a number of the AOZ MS appear in anime for, it's a shame that most of the drawings we see are for models and toys being designed.

:ninja: I am being deliberately vague, I would only repeat the information found on the link below.:ninja:

Check it out.

** Link has been removed **

 :embarrased: Sorry about that, I put the wrong link on to this post...  :embarrased:

I went a head and deleted the link since it is already posted below, I moved the link to a new post that I made, I intended to put up a link to the gears online webpage.  :embarrased:
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on July 17, 2007, 07:50:02 AM
I think you posted the wrong link.  That one goes to an online book shop that sells the novels. 

Tachyon of GearsOnline and I worked on this together.  We recently posted the "good guy" MP suits, the Xeku Enforcer and the GM Cannon IV.  Pretty soon I should have the "bad guy" MP suits up as well. 

I'm not sure what tie in there may be to AoZ...  did you see something I didn't?

The designs are top-notch IMHO and way more interesting than other recent 'official' gundam releases.

http://www.mechascientific.com/meaninglesswar
http://www.gearsonline.net/gundam/meaninglesswar/
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Anchang on July 17, 2007, 08:01:39 AM
His link leads to a book store that is selling a modeling book called Meaningless War.  It has some nice pictures in it.  That first page that is linked ask if the viewer is 18+ if you are click on the little button that says ”hai” or the button on the left. That will lead you to the page.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: clee-cm on July 17, 2007, 10:33:09 AM
His link leads to a book store that is selling a modeling book called Meaningless War.  It has some nice pictures in it.  That first page that is linked ask if the viewer is 18+ if you are click on the little button that says ”hai” or the button on the left. That will lead you to the page.

The one problem with the page is that I kept getting stuck in at the 18+ warning page when I used Google Language Tools, and Yahoo Babel Fish to translate the page. I was not allowed to see the actual Meaningless War 0091 web page while using a online translator, there for the viewer needs to be able to read Japanese.

I had to make a correction on my earlier post, here is the link to the webpage.

click here to view the web page. (http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0010/10/38/040010103820.html)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on July 18, 2007, 12:41:52 PM
I guess my next question  where can I buy the books, after I post this I'm going to straight to HLJ and R10, but if anybody else knows where I can find each book please post where.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on July 18, 2007, 01:00:57 PM
The link posted by clee-cm, and melonbooks.com are the only places that list them online, and neither site has all three editions.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on July 18, 2007, 01:58:39 PM
aww that sucks :angry: Oh well thanks for the information everybody. I'll keep a close eye on new info about this storyline as they arise.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on July 21, 2007, 08:32:16 AM
You won't have much to keep an eye on, the series is almost done from what we can tell.

Whats been really neat is a member over at our TTT Arc is going to do 3 upgrade kits for existing HGUC kits for AoZ.  If you're a member of our forum, you can vote for your 3 designs you would want to see done. 

AOZ HGUC Upgrade Kits Voting (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/index.php?showtopic=1213)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Mrex-sgundam on July 23, 2007, 08:50:16 AM
 :pirate: man I'm late seeing things unfold its almost over...oh well. I voted I hope he chooses The Asshimar Tr-3 (have one of those setting in dust) a Icarus Unit and GM Sniper.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on August 02, 2007, 06:23:51 AM
Just like any Gundam Series, you can always catch up.  Besides, this series should've ended a long time ago, but it's still cranking out episodes!  ninjascience has set up some nice FAQs on the forum and Mark Simmons has given us nice chapter summaries for the whole series.  It's never too late to jump on the AoZ train!
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on October 11, 2007, 06:33:11 PM
I've moved this AoZ reference thread from our Group Build #2 to this contest forum for convienience.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Marc on November 07, 2007, 12:47:00 PM
Mmmmh SD Fiver, yummy:
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6947/1194448354742is4.jpg
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: CaptainPlastic on November 18, 2007, 03:06:13 AM
Removed.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: mtomczek on November 20, 2007, 09:44:38 AM
Does anyone here have the assembly instructions for the Hrududu add on parts? I picked up the kit and another primrose kit in Japan but the Hrududu does not have assembly instructions printed on the box like the primrose does. (I think it was in the magazine). If anyone has them it would be super awesome!

Thanks!

(and yes I am back from Japan as of about 1 hour ago)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on November 20, 2007, 09:48:02 AM
tada!

http://www.mechascientific.com/aoz/fg-1144th-ff-x29a-hrududu-review/
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: mtomczek on November 20, 2007, 09:58:50 AM
woohoo!!! Thanks!
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Zers on December 10, 2007, 04:55:59 PM
This was posted on gunota if anybody missed it. If nothing else it's nice to look at =p

http://www.gundam.info/topic/884
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Funaka on March 14, 2008, 12:42:58 PM
Since I've got one AoZ mod done and I'm well into my second, I decided to take stock of my AoZ decals and decide if I need to make more. However, I have a nagging question on what a couple of the decals mean so I can decide if they're needed and how they should be used.

The first thing I found out is that the Aswan was a ship used by the TTT. Can anybody tell me if it would be appropriate for any Hazel to be operating from it, and thus sporting some "aswan" markings. Did the Aswan's "lifespan" cover all of the Hazel variants?

Second, what is "OMecha"? I believe the subtitle on the decal says "Omerecetaronics and Omarkitecnics Trial Mobile Suit". Is it a company, something like Anaheim Electronics? Is it a kind of modified MS?

Should there be AE logos on TTT mobile suits? I read on the TTT Arc that it's unclear if AE made the TTT's equipment, or just the basic MS, and all the additions are the work of the TTT.

I've spent an hour looking for answers, both here, on the TTT Arc, om Mechascientific and on Google, but I just can't find it. Sometimes it seems the simplest facts are hard to find because nobody makes threads discussing the obvious...

Thanks for any help you can give! :-)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: ninjascience on March 14, 2008, 01:06:38 PM
Omecha is sort of a signature for artist Fujioka Kenki.  It doesn't mean anything in the context of the AoZ setting.  I heard somewhere that it's short of "Original Mecha" but it's usually shown with a greek theta(?) symbol instead of an O.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: clee-cm on March 14, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
The first thing I found out is that the Aswan was a ship used by the TTT. Can anybody tell me if it would be appropriate for any Hazel to be operating from it, and thus sporting some "aswan" markings. Did the Aswan's "lifespan" cover all of the Hazel variants?

From what I understand, the Aswan was the primary heavy cruiser of the Titans Test Team, many of the Hazels operated from it. Until it was destroyed in a AEUG raid, when it still had the Fiver II mobile armor mored to the Aswan, only part of the Fiver II escaped intact. So many of the TTT Mobile Suits operated from it until the Aswan's destruction, the Hazels, Bizack TR-2, Galblady, and several others.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Funaka on March 15, 2008, 07:14:18 AM
Thanks, guys!

Looks like more ASWAN decals (although I might work on the design, it's really boring) and little or no Omecha decals. Maybe since I like the Omecha decal design, I'll do one in that style with an alpha that says "Aswan" instead of "Omecha". Hmm... the roots of task force Alpha??

It's kinda funny that I'm devoting so much time to models from a storyline I know so little about. Then again, the less I know, the more I feel free to be creative!
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: Bazookafied on March 25, 2008, 03:07:26 PM
If anyone needs ideas for this comp, be sure to check out ninjascience's images of an AoZ Gunpla contest in the land of the rising sun.

August DHM Gunpla Contest:  AoZ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72157594231979397/)

If you're looking for more info on AoZ, check out these links:

Titans Test Team Arc (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Team/)
The first and only English forum designed to collect, translate, and release AoZ information.  Everything from Gunpla to story outlines to MS data specs, its all there.  We are still translating and releasing data, even after the series concluded.

MechaScientific (http://www.mechascientific.com/aoz)
Much of the TTT Arc's work has ended up in this spectacular website managed and built by ninjascience.  From kit reviews to specs to chapter summaries, this website contains all of the TTT Arc's finished products in a sleek organized layout.  A must see for AoZ Fans.

Ultimate Mark's AoZ Timeline (in the UC Timeline0 (http://ultimatemark.com/gundam/timeline.php?series=52)
Mark Simmons greatly contributed to much of the TTT Arc's successful translations and its no wonder!  This section of his UC Timeline outlines AoZ's events within the UC timeline.  See how AoZ fits into the bigger scheme of things!

ninjascience's AoZ Images @ Flickr
Want an awesome look at all of the stunning designs and artwork that came out of AoZ?  ninjascience has you covered again!  From raw scans to cleaned lineart, this is an awesome pictorial reference.
AoZ RAW Scans (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72057594073648490/)
AoZ Clean (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72057594086870020/)
Advance of Zeta Photonovel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72157594194947277/)
AoZ Gunpla Contest Entries (Aug DHM) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72157594231979397/)Trial Report (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72157594376665416/)
Translated AoZ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ninjascience/sets/72157594447161147/)
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: AnatoleFarmond on April 18, 2008, 10:46:04 PM
Hey, I know I'm not in this build... but I thought this (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ju3m-okmt/gallery/GTF/html/gallery_GTF.html) was a good reference for something AoZ ish, I know a couple of you are still building, maybe it will give some inspirations.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: FichtenFoo on April 19, 2008, 05:25:48 AM
Nice! The catseye version is very cool, the others are a little blah.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: AnatoleFarmond on April 19, 2008, 08:30:38 AM
Yeah, that was the one I was most interested in too.
Title: Re: GB2: AoZ Reference and Questions
Post by: clee-cm on May 17, 2008, 09:44:19 AM
Hi Everyone:

I was looking through Rapidsearch, and I came accross a link to the AOZ Official Art Book Vol. 0, It has all of the Zeon Remant art, drawings to the ships used by Titans in AOZ and many the TTT MS.

The AOZ book is the second link on the list.

Here is the URL:
Advance of Zeta Official Art Book (http://rapidsearch.yi.org/?s=Advance+of+Zeta)

Enjoy,